Donate to or support
Talk to Action








The Indian River Incident : What You Can Do

link > The "Stop the ACLU Coalition" Shaming Project
How you can help stop "Stop The ACLU" just by sending a few emails



 'Left Behind' video game imageThe Shaming Project

does the violence of "Left Behind: Eternal Forces" bother you ? If so, what can you do ? Well, to begin with you can email Jonathan Hutson's stories to people you know. That will help to bring more public scrutiny of the game. Public shaming really works ! Just click on the "email" icon and link at the top or bottom of the story and you'll be taken to a form that will allow you email the first story, The Purpose Driven Life Takers or the latest installment without leaving this site. Thanks. 'Left Behind' video game image




The Gospel of Fear
By moiv Tue Jun 06, 2006 at 09:56:38 PM EST printable version print story
Over the Memorial Day weekend, Operation Save America warmed up for its upcoming assault on the last abortion clinic in Mississippi this July by descending en masse on Raleigh, North Carolina. Raleigh is the home of Susan Hill, whose National Women's Health Organization has kept its Jackson clinic open in the face of relentless opposition from legislators and activists alike. Recently I wrote of the storm clouds rising in Jackson, where OSA will be joined by the New York-based Oh Saratoga! and other groups to "storm the gates of hell" and close the Jackson clinic for all time.  

Photobucket - Video and Image Hosting

Last summer OSA was joined by Fr. Frank Pavone in Colorado, where Benham and his friends - some of whom reside in high places -- perpetrated a personal attack on Dr. Warren Hern of Boulder, leafleting his neighborhood with flyers that that bore Dr. Hern's photograph and condemned him as a "baby killer" and "murderer."  And now the gospel of fear has set its sights on Susan Hill.

topic: Reproductive Rights
Even though OSA and some other groups publicly disavow violence, they maintain associations with others who are more open about their own understanding of the will of God. Joining Benham and OSA in Raleigh was Johnny Hunter, director of L.E.A.R.N., Inc., who has built a career on denouncing abortion as "black genocide," and says that "It is time for the women of our nation to become like the mothers and midwives in ancient Egypt."  Hunter appeared with Mark Crutcher -  whose Life Dynamics web site details the addresses and phone numbers of every abortion-providing clinic in the country under the header Death Camps -- to expound upon the "holocaust" of abortion.

The video of Mark Crutcher's interview with Johnny Hunter is available in its entirety on the web site of the Rev. David Trosch, and it is hard to imagine that either the highly litigious Crutcher or Hunter would permit it to remain there without their permission and approval. David Trosch is a renegade priest who openly advocates the murder of physicians who provide abortion care.

Photobucket - Video and Image Hosting

A Catholic priest sat behind his desk in Magnolia Springs and pulled out a drawing on a sheet of paper.

It's an advertisement that shows a doctor about to perform an abortion, and a man with a gun about to shoot the doctor. Two words accompany the drawing: "Justifiable Homicide."

The ad was designed by the Rev. David Trosch, head of St. John the Baptist Catholic Church in Magnolia Springs, about 45 minutes south of Mobile.

"If 100 doctors need to die to save over 1 million babies a year, I see it as a fair trade," Trosch said in an interview.
:::
For the moment, Trosch says, he has no plans to kill a doctor himself. He has "only remotely" thought about it, he said.
:::
Still, Trosch wouldn't say with absolute certainty he'd never kill a doctor.

While Trosch said he has never told anyone else to kill a doctor, he casually acknowledged that the advertisement could have incited people to kill.

"It doesn't bother me," he said.

Benham to Hunter to Crutcher to Trosch: Tinker to Evers to Chance and then some. Following are excerpts from the OSA version of what Benham, Hunter and their friends did in Raleigh on May 27.

At 9:00 a.m. sharp, in accordance with the sound permit, Bill's sound system begins operation.  Roger with his sharp eye has previously informed Bill that the clinic has the American flag hung backwards - stars to outside.  This becomes a great opening dialogue for Bill, "The flag is hung backwards like everything else inside the clinic is backwards against God's laws.  You can pretty up the outside with a flag and flowers out front but it is the devils death camp, filled with his lies and murder.  Your flag hanging backwards and the killing done inside gives only dishonor to America on this day."  
:::
Around 9:30 a.m. Flip arrives with his trailer, pulls out his gigantic speakers, signs and billboards and sets up on the sidewalk directly across from the clinic.  Our first example today in how boldness for the Lord overcomes oppression.  The awesome sound of a trumpet call of victory from Curtis Fenison rings gloriously to God through the streets!  The powerful words of life pour out from Flip as he begins broadcasting that the church of Jesus Christ has come to the gates of hell in Raleigh!
:::
About this time Dr. Johnny Hunter of "Black Genocide" arrives with his wife.  While both Flip and Rev. Hunter continue to loudly preach the words of life the multiple squad of police with their leaders have retreated to a bank parking lot across the street while trying to figure out the municipal city statues, while, with wand in hand, they continue to measure decibels. ... The security forces are left without recourse. They can only stand in front of the clinic with multiple cameras going as they must now wait for police relief from the "Church in the Street" which is powerfully flowing.
:::
The oppression previously being effected ... by these security people is, by now, gone forever. It becomes plainly obvious the power belongs to God alone.

As the sound system blared with music, worship and evangelizing, Curtis with great beauty declared God's presence with his trumpets and the police dithered.

 

Photobucket - Video and Image Hosting

Curtis Fenison (with shofar trumpet across his back) and Johnny Hunter in Raleigh

After several hours of disruption and intimidation at the Raleigh clinic, what Flip Benham calls God's "gentle Christian warriors" reassembled at the home of Susan Hill.

Flip had printed posters with Susan's picture headlining that "Susan Hill has Murdered Thousands of Children in Raleigh - Please Pray for Her Repentance and Conversion to Christ!" Below her picture is a list of "Did you knows" with a call to speak up in witness for the least of God's children.  Copies will be available in Jackson .

Arriving about 2:00 p.m. we split up into a two pronged approach towards her house, passing out posters on the way, carrying graphic signs with an "abortionist" arrow to be appropriately pointed.  
:::
An unexpected great spectacle of publicity in the neighborhood for the infamous Susan Hill occurred as numerous police cars and officers gathered and were in conference with us for probably an hour or so in the front streets focusing much attention to her home.  How the Lord works in mysterious ways!

Last year, Dr. Warren Hern had this to say about OSA'a campaign of intimidation against him in Boulder.

Hern said the group had spent two days demonstrating at his office and another Boulder clinic before going to his neighborhood to pass out the flyers.

"It's bad enough that they harassed women in my clinic," he said. "But this group can't leave anyone alone. The flyer they passed out is a very personal attack."

Hern noted that elsewhere in the country, where abortion doctors have been killed, similar flyers have been posted.

"This is telling the fascists to kill abortion doctors," he said of the leafleting campaign.

"This is a terrorist operation. This means that they would stop at nothing. Who will be next? When they get through with the abortion doctors, Operation Save America has a long list of people that they hate."

This is the "Justifiable Homicide" ad circulated by the "Reverend" David Trosch.

Photobucket - Video and Image Hosting

This is the flyer that Operation Save America used to target Dr. Warren Hern less than a year ago.

Photobucket - Video and Image Hosting

And this is the text of the poster - which bears two photographs of Ms. Hill [pdf link] - that OSA distributed in Raleigh, and plans to use to incite the mobs in Jackson next month.

Susan Hill has Murdered Thousands of Children in Raleigh
PLEASE PRAY FOR HER REPENTANCE AND CONVERSION TO CHRIST!

DID YOU KNOW?
Susan graduated from the Meredith Baptist Women's College here in Raleigh.

Since 1973 Susan has been tragically involved in shedding the innocentblood of God's unborn children.

Susan is the President of multiple abortion centers known as the "National Women's Health Organization" located in several states, including one right here in Raleigh on Haworth Drive, off of Six Forks Road.

Susan publicly boasts that she is doing something "beautiful."

Tens of thousands of children have died at her hand and enriched her pockets.

Susan believes what she does is good, while unborn babies are being terrorized to death in her clinics.

Silence is consent! God calls us to speak for those who cannot speak for themselves (Proverbs 31:8).

Will you speak up in witness for the least of God's children (Matt. 25.40)?

"We pray that God would take the wicked heart of Susan Hill and turn it towards Himself. We pray that Jesus would apprehend her heart and enable Susan to use the wonderful gifts and abilities He has bestowed upon her to bring health and life rather than destruction and death. In Jesus' Name!"

www.operationsaveamerica.org

It feels reassuring to think that these campaigns of fear are being carried out by fringe groups that lie -- in a phrase beloved of politicians on the religious right -- "outside the mainstream of the American people."  But the truth is that Operation Save America has a great many friends among the politically powerful.

Fr. Frank Pavone, the Vatican's own "vicar for life" who actively participated in the OSA action in Colorado last July, had this comment on the recent attempt to pass an abortion ban in Mississippi: "[W]hen the people and lawmakers of a state want to protect their own children, and have been prevented from doing so for over three decades, perhaps the only way to regain that right is to force the issue."

And Pavone enjoys access to the highest corridors of power. One of Pavone's more notable allies is Senator Sam Brownback, whose "constituency of one" makes him God's Senator. So Flip Benham and his friends might have reason to be feeling cocky right now.

Photobucket - Video and Image Hosting

Flip Benham meets with Don Wildmon of the American Family Association

"... Shall your countrymen go to war while you sit here?"

God Himself is orchestrating this event in Jackson, and we all are standing by in humble amazement. He has given us great favor with the American Family Association (AFA) and, during our meeting with Don Wildmon, we were assured that we would have the formidable support of the AFA attorneys to bring the Gospel of Christ right to the gates of hell. We believe that Mississippi may well be the first abortion free state in our country. What a message that would send to the nation!

They are sending a message to the nation already, loud and clear, if only the nation will hear it.




Display:
reacted as anyone else might to OSA's invasion of their neighborhood.

[T]wo women came out of adjoining homes onto the sidewalks screaming to get out of here - "I love Susan Hill - get out of my yard - go back to your trash and trailers!" One woman ran into her house, coming back out in a threatening manner with a large brown rottweiler.

"WOOF!"

I hope Don Wildmon's lawyers don't sue the dog.

 

by moiv on Tue Jun 06, 2006 at 10:33:13 PM EST


God provides man with choices in order for man to evolve.  Along with this freedom goes responsibility which includes accepting responsibility for your actions and accepting responsible challenges.  

Today we are seeing the return of the Dark Ages where responsible choices are no longer tolerated.  As such we are being punished by God for these actions.  Thus we no longer live without fear. Thus we must spend ever more money in order to protect ourselves, also ever more money to feed and house ourselves.  This is only some of our punishment.

Church and State must be separated.

Churches use Religion as a weapon of control.

God provides man with choices not control.

Churches tell you to ask for more from God instead of explaining to you that God has provided all that man requires.  It is up to man to use that which God has provided instead of asking for more, and more.  Churches teach greed for the purpose of power.  This must stop.  Read the sermon "Prayer".  Also the Sermon on "Abortion"  (www.thechurchofthelivingwordofgod.net)

Facilitator Peter

by Facilitator Peter on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 12:51:58 PM EST

Now, I don't mean to push my faith here, but that was a righteous speech. I believe you're right on choice. We all have it, we all need it. Otherwise, I do believe, we're robots.

I'm not sure on the fear part though. I guess I think God doesn't want us to live in fear. Maybe though we should fear ourselves a bit.

by nonlinear on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 09:48:58 PM EST
[ Parent ]

While we do have a lot of latitude around here, the site topic is the religious right, and what to do about it. But just a friendly reminder -- particularly for the many new readers and participants we have lately.

We are not a faith blog or an antifaith blog. Please help us stay on topic. Comparing notes on off-topic aspects of religion and non-religion should be taken off-site.  FC, site owner.

by Frederick Clarkson on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 11:47:00 PM EST
[ Parent ]

This is hard territory. People don't want to pay attention to it for long . They'd rather feel comfortable and safe regardless of external events.....

by Bruce Wilson on Thu Jun 08, 2006 at 12:12:41 AM EST
[ Parent ]





WWW Talk To Action


The Fog is Lifting over Common Ground on Abortion
President Obama has made much about finding common ground on abortion, and Democratic oriented think tanks like Third Way and Faith in Public Life......
By Frederick Clarkson (0 comments)
Short Takes
Examiner.com:  A few years ago, Talk to Action exposed the convert or die ideology of the video game based on Tim LaHaye's Left Behind......
By Frederick Clarkson (6 comments)
Sally Kern, Unpatriot: Why Does Oklahoma's Looney Lawmaker Hate America?
Everyone's favorite raging theocrat, Oklahoma House member Sally Kern, is at it again. Numerous reports indicate that Kern and her supporters plan to publicly......
By Rob Boston (3 comments)
Camp David Chaplain: "First we get the military, then we get the nation"
For a few hours today it seemed, according to a new Time Magazine story by Amy Sullivan, released Monday morning, that US President Barack......
By Bruce Wilson (0 comments)
Obama's [Reported] New Pastor: "First we get the military, then we get the nation"
UPDATE: The White House has denied the report that Obama has chosen the chapel at Camp David as his church. This, however, does not......
By Chris Rodda (2 comments)
CBS's Go To (Rightwing) Catholic Guy
The go to guy at CBS News for all-things Catholic is one Father Thomas D. Williams.  Never heard of him?  Well, if you watch......
By Frank Cocozzelli (2 comments)
MRFF Demands DoD Revoke Authority of Chaplain Endorser Who Suggested Democrats Should Be Executed
As I wrote back in May, the antics of disgraced former Navy chaplain Gordon Klingenschmitt, and his retaliation against the Military Religious Freedom Foundation......
By Chris Rodda (4 comments)
Al Jazeera Special Report Covers Advance of Fundamentalism in US Military
A June 23, 2009 report from Al Jazeera (English) by Josh Rushing, "Fault Lines - Religion in the Military", expertly covers a topic the......
By Bruce Wilson (2 comments)
Ann Coulter Justifies The Tiller Assasination
Ann Coulter is skilled at saying what she really believes while building in a certain plausible deniability, and that is what she has repeatedly......
By Frederick Clarkson (5 comments)
More on the Pre-Netroots Nation Pie Fight
The other day, I reported about the pies launched in response to the description of one of the first sessions to be announced for......
By Frederick Clarkson (3 comments)
Ralph's Resurrection?: Former Christian Coalition Honcho Reed Seeks To Rise From The Crypt
Last month I wrote a story for Church & State speculating about possible new leaders for the Religious Right. I focused on Mike Huckabee,......
By Rob Boston (3 comments)
Liberty Learns A Lesson: Falwell School Accepts AU Advice On Political Clubs
Americans United for Separation of Church and State reacted quickly when word spread recently that officials at Liberty University had revoked university recognition of......
By Rob Boston (0 comments)
Defense Department-Certified Agency Newsletter Suggests Killing Democrats
"In 2008, Ammerman implied that four presidential candidates should be "arrested, quickly tried and hanged" for not voting to designate English America's official language,......
By Bruce Wilson (2 comments)
Col. Jim Ammerman, Apostle & New World Order Conspiracy Theorist
Part Two - Conspiracy as Prophecy New World Order Conspiracy is not disseminated by white supremacist groups alone. New World Order conspiracy is a......
By Ruth (2 comments)
Common Ground Sink Hole at RH Reality Check
There is an odd new section to the prochoice site, RH Reality Check devoted to discussion of common ground on abortion, and featuring some......
By Frederick Clarkson (3 comments)

Radio host: We're only united through Christianity
Most of you in Indiana may know about Peter Heck, who hosts a daily radio show in Kokomo and puts out a column that appears in several newspapers across the state and in OneNewsNow.......
By Christian Dem in NC (1 comment)
Cindy Jacobs--the new leader of the NAR
You may remember that Lou Engle has made moves of late to position himself as the new power in the religious right.  He's a member of the Apostolic Council of Prophetic Elders, a group......
By Christian Dem in NC (1 comment)
James F. Linzey Espouses anti-Semitic, White Racialist Conspiracy Theory
James F. Linzey is a prominent, active duty chaplain in the United States military. Linzey has stated that he was the command chaplain for the Operation Iraqi Freedom troop mobilization prior to the US......
By Bruce Wilson (0 comments)
White Supremacist named as Holocaust Museum Shooter
An 89 year old, vehemently antiSemitic  Ron Paul supporter has been named by police as the gunman who opened fire in the Holocaust Museum shortly after noon today: Gunman, guard shot at Holocaust museum......
By CynthiaGee (0 comments)
From Focus On The Family to La Familia Michoacana
I didn't think my work on the religous right would converge with what I'm doing on the narcoguerra in Mexico...but here it is: the Faith-Based Cartel. ......
By julydogs (1 comment)
A Pagan Among the Mainstream Churches in Boise
The participation by an "out" Pagan in the Idaho Hunger Relief Task Force proves that some religions will accept and welcome help from all quarters, in recognition that we are all human.  The glaring......
By Chiawana (0 comments)
Clarkson on CounterSpin
Hear me discuss the Tiller assasination this week on the nationally syndicated radio program CounterSpin, the progressive media criticism show produced by Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting (FAIR).  You can also listen via Mp3......
By Frederick Clarkson (0 comments)
Liberty Counsel tries to SLAPP Americans United
In what can charitably be described as an act of desperation, Liberty Counsel is asking the IRS to investigate Americans United's tax-exempt status.  This comes only days after AU asked the IRS to investigate......
By Christian Dem in NC (0 comments)
Strange how things bring the nutcases out
I read today that Westboro Baptist staged a protest at a vigil held for Dr. Tiller in Wichita.   I'm not surprised, but what did surprise me was that they had 20 people there......
By ArchaeoBob (0 comments)
Southern Baptists may be abandoning public schools
Via OneNewsNow, I discovered a story by former Southern Baptist Convention president Morris Chapman that appears to call for SBC churches to begin setting up Christian schools. I now wonder if our focus in......
By Christian Dem in NC (0 comments)
Footnote about Ammerman / Palin / Wagner Linkage
Colonel "Jim" Ammerman was listed as being an apostle in C. Peter Wagner's International Coalition of Apostles [see ICA prospectus] from the organization's inception in 2001 through to December 2008. The ICA is one......
By Bruce Wilson (0 comments)
The Singapore Struggle, after AWARE
An introductory post on steeplejacking in Singapore after the attempted takeover of a woman's NGO and a summary of recent updates. ......
By Sniper (2 comments)
What Does Bobby Jindal Really Want to Do To Louisiana Higher Education?
In recent weeks, Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal has stood back and watched while both the Louisiana House and Senate wrestled with his original budget proposal to cut $219 million from Louisiana public higher education.......
By ulyankee (3 comments)
Yank Dominionists are considering taking over....New Zealand?????
No, it's not a plot for a bad sci-fi movie, it's.... "The Three Greatest Issues Facing the Men of New Zealand" ....and the first wave of the "invasion" has already hit the island, just......
By CynthiaGee (1 comment)
The AWARE steeplejackers and their deep connections to Joel's Army and American dominionists
Thanks to a few Singaporean friends (who shall remain anonymous), I had become aware of a disturbing development--an attempted hijack of a major women's NGO. Through those same folks and Fred Clarkson's post on......
By dogemperor (0 comments)
Common Enemies: LGBT, Abortion Share Foes
by Pam Chamberlain [On The Issues Magazine] When I was in college, a group of radical women dressed as witches ran around major U.S. cities doing zap actions, placing hexes on male-dominated institutions like......
By On The Issues Magazine (0 comments)
Florida Theocrats at it again.
There are two news articles in today's Ledger that are of concern. http://www.theledger.com/article/20090424/NEWS/904259979/1003/NEW S00?Title=Jesus-License-Plate-Could-Come The new license plates come up for a vote this year. http://www.theledger.com/article/20090423/NEWS/904235098/1005/NEW S02?Title=Bill-Would-Strengthen-Voucher-Program This bill, also possibly up for a......
By ArchaeoBob (4 comments)
Is Humanism Arrogant?
Much to the dismay of theocratic Christians, humanists claim that ethics can be understood without resorting to the supernatural or alleged divine authority from religious texts.  Christian theocrats say this is hubris. ......
By TMurray (8 comments)
Terry Schaivo back in the news
http://www.theledger.com/article/20090330/NEWS/903305040/1003/NEW S00?Title=Schiavo-Anniversary-Mass-Planned Another move by the religious right- rather than letting Terry go (after an autopsy PROVED that she had severe and irreversible brain damage), they're dragging her up again. ......
By ArchaeoBob (5 comments)
no ark no temple
how can you build a new temple in jerusalem if there is no ark of the covanent to put in it? book of jerimiah states that the ark will not be reconstructed. what does......
By keyknow (5 comments)
WND.com Cashes In on "Birther" Conspiracy Theories
WorldNetDaily has been spinning ridiculous yarns about Barack Obama since last year's presidential campaign, particularly about the idea that he's a foreign-born usurper to the Oval Office. Now you can own a peice of......
By Scoutstr295 (0 comments)
Did you know NC's constitution bars atheists from holding office?
When I found out that an Arkansas state rep is trying to repeal a provision in his state constitution that bars atheists from holding office, I remembered that, sadly, North Carolina's constitution has a......
By Christian Dem in NC (2 comments)
AP helping religious right again--this time in Arkansas
I'm starting to wonder if the American Family Association has a moleat the Associated Press. That's the only plausible explanation for an AP story about a possible referendum about removing constitutional restrictions on atheists......
By Christian Dem in NC (1 comment)
Creationists' new angle--it's in the name of academic freedom
(cross-posted at dKos) Looks like the creationist crowd is trying a new tack to try and get a toe in the evolution debate. Apparently shutting out discussion of creation amounts to a denial of......
By Christian Dem in NC (2 comments)
Religious right threatens lawsuit over provision of stimulus bill
cross-posted at dKos The American Center for Law and Justice is threatening a lawsuit over the stimulus package. At issue? A provision that it claims may force colleges receiving funds to renovate their facilities......
By Christian Dem in NC (3 comments)
Fundies raising stink about prospective gay appointment
cross-posted at dKosI had a funny feeling the religious right would find something about Obama to get worked up about, and wouldn't you know, it looks like they have.  Apparently the prospect of Obama--horrors!--appointing......
By Christian Dem in NC (1 comment)
The Churches may need Redefining
       John Aravosis www.americablog.com/ has reported that Archbishop Rino Fisichella is commenting on the arrogance of newly elected President Obama as someone who is opening the door to abortion and thus the......
By tangodaddy (1 comment)
Blackwater: Guns for Hire or Trojan Horsemen?
The Los Angeles Times reports this morning that  Blackwater security may be forced out of Iraq: "Blackwater Worldwide,the security firm that allegedly used excessive force to protect U.S. diplomats in Iraq, will soon be......
By CynthiaGee (0 comments)
If Abortion is Murder what do you do with the Killers?
This is a video I found today of a guy who interviewed pro-life activists at an anti-abortion rally. The interviewer asked the question, "What do you do with all of the women who commit......
By inlikeflint (0 comments)
Boston Globe Notes Warren's Hitler Cites, Misses "Africa Problem"
As a new Boston Globe article, "Effort to surmount polarizing debates backfires on pastor", by Michael Paulson, noticed, "The Huffington Post, noting that Warren has cited the success Hitler, Lenin and Mao had at......
By Bruce Wilson (4 comments)

More Diaries...


Donate to or support
Talk to Action

Left Behind: Eternal Forces: Installments of Jonathan Hutson's Talk To Action expose series on the "Left Behind: Eternal Forces" video game have been viewed by up to 1/2 million people. See our site section featuring Over 35 original articles covering the controversial "Left Behind: Eternal Forces" video game that has provoked a boycott by a coalition of religious groups and a letter writing campaign urging Walmart to stop selling the game. Media inquiries click here
(image: detail from Francoise Dubois' rendition of the Bartholomew's Day Massacre reveals the actual nature of religious warfare)