Amnesty for Immigrants According to Richard Land
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Wed Apr 04, 2007 at 01:58:50 AM EST
While several leaders of the religious right have recently made anti-immigration comments, it is good to see Richard Land and the Southern Baptist Convention taking a more moderate approach.
Land's approach apparently upset some of his usual customers, so he was forced to write a defense of his position. Land was particularly sensitive to the charge that he was in favor of amnesty for illegal immigrants. Some excerpts from his Baptist Press article:

The term "comprehensive legislation" is not code for amnesty, no matter what my critics contend. Webster defines amnesty as the "act of an authority (as a government) by which pardon is granted to a large group of individuals." Amnesty is wiping a transgressor's record clean -- it is a free ride.

Proper reform should consist of a "guest-worker" program that requires an illegal immigrant to undergo a criminal background check, pay a fine, agree to pay back taxes, learn English and get in line behind those who have legally migrated into this country in order to apply for permanent residence after a probationary period of years. Amnesty? Hardly.

To call any proposed requirement -- that individuals must learn to read and write and speak English and go through a rigorous process in order to earn their way out of a lengthy period of "probation" in order to apply for legal status -- "amnesty" is to do violence to the English language.

One must not only learn how to read, write and speak English properly; one must use the language as it was intended. Words have agreed upon meanings. One cannot change the meanings of words arbitrarily. Penalties, probation, and requirements do not equal "amnesty."

My position and the position of most Southern Baptists with whom I have spoken on this issue embraces the thought that if these immigrants choose to travel on a "path of legal status and/or citizenship," it must include certain financial, time, and other requirements. Amnesty? Hardly. [   ]

While the government focuses on enforcing the law, Christians are mandated to forgive and to act redemptively within their communities toward all people, including illegal immigrants. As citizens of the Lord's heavenly Kingdom, we have a divine mandate to respond compassionately toward those who are in need. [  ]

I was asked by a USA Today reporter following that press conference if my position on this issue was not somewhat ahead of where "some" of the people in the pew were. I agreed that I might be "a little bit ahead" of where some Southern Baptists are vis-à-vis this issue, but I noted voting messengers at the Southern Baptist Convention adopted the resolution on the immigration crisis with near unanimity and with no debate.

For the record, I did not say, and did not acknowledge, that I was "a little bit ahead" of where the convention was. In fact, I was at the press conference representing what the convention had said on the issue.




Display:

"More evangelicals embracing McCain immigration stance"
(http://www.sanluisobispo.com/mld/sanluisobispo/news/politics/1702 1565.htm) gives more of the context on this issue that is dividing conservatives.


by Carlos on Wed Apr 04, 2007 at 11:06:18 AM EST
It's nice to see Richard Land speaking for the SBCers with whom he has spoken with not the entire SBC.  Baptist Directors of the Ethics and Religious Liberty organizations at both the state and national levels have historically spoken TO but not FOR other Baptists.  Land has a tendency to claim that his views represent most, if not all Southern Baptists.

His position may be ahead of "some" of the people in the pew.  I don't know.  However, Land doesn't mention that the 2006 Immigration resolution offers no specifics as to how the "immigration crisis" should be solved.  Land can't rely on that resolution to demonstrate the views of SBCers on immigration.

by Big Daddy Weave on Wed Apr 04, 2007 at 01:27:27 PM EST
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I was just happy to see Land not join the "Deport Now" crowd. Of course, part of the story may be that the SBC wants some of the hispanic evangelicals cash and numbers.

by Carlos on Wed Apr 04, 2007 at 03:36:12 PM EST
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What I see is still racist- all the talk about learning English, and "speaking it correctly".

That is all nonsense.  How are they going to teach it?  Who decides that it is spoken properly?  How much time will they be allowed before the immigrants get into trouble?  Who polices it?  What version of English is to be spoken (what dialect?)  What will the standard for admission as a citizen?  Will the same standards be applied that are placed upon citizens already here?

Even who decides what words mean what is assigned by the elites- who want an underclass for a multitude of reasons.  Go into any courtroom or listen to legislators- you'll soon find out that the meanings of words are changed to keep people out "out of the loop" so to speak.

by ArchaeoBob on Wed Apr 04, 2007 at 09:43:15 PM EST



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