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Rick Warren Repudiates Martin Ssempa
By Richard Bartholomew Thu Nov 05, 2009 at 07:06:23 AM EST printable version print story
From Warren Throckmorton's blog:
STATEMENT FROM PASTOR RICK & KAY WARREN REGARDING ACTIVITIES OF MARTIN SSEMPA IN UGANDA

Martin Ssempa does not represent me, my wife Kay, Saddleback Church, nor the Global PEACE Plan strategy. In 2007, we completely severed contact with Mr. Ssempa  when we learned that his views and actions were in serious conflict with our own. Our role, and the role of the PEACE Plan, whether in Uganda or any other country, is always pastoral and never political. We vigorously oppose anything that hinders the goals of the PEACE Plan: Promoting reconciliation, Equipping ethical leaders, Assisting the poor, Caring for the sick, and Educating the next generation.


Throckmorton is himself a conservative Christian, but he has been forthright in his opposition to the proposed Anti-Homosexuality Bill under consideration in Uganda and backed by religious leaders such as Ssempa. In a recent article published in the Uganda Independent, Throckmorton noted the story from John's Gospel of the woman taken in adultery:

As I read the Anti-Homosexuality Bill proposed in Uganda by MPs David Bahati and Benson Obua, I wonder if perhaps these gentlemen think Jesus should have picked up a stone. Instead, Jesus intervened on behalf of the woman, was He wrong? Clearly, He did not believe adultery was proper. But He signaled a new way of dealing with sin, one which emphasizes mercy and freedom, rather than coercion and death. People must choose to follow the teachings of Christ, not be coerced by Pharisees or government officials. The human heart cannot be changed by laws, but through the freely chosen grace of Christ.

Brothers and sisters, jailing or killing gays or those suspected of being gay or those who know gays cannot create a righteous people, and in fact may further a self-righteous people. One may disapprove of homosexuality, and still treat homosexuals as you would want to be treated. Who among us could stand if our private sins were judged in such a manner as the Anti-Homosexuality Bill of 2009?


Warren was apparently moved to make his statement after being contacted by Throckmorton and by Andrew Marin. According to Marin:
As recent as the middle of last week, Martin Ssempa was still mentioned on Saddleback's website. However, all links to Ssempa were swiftly removed when Dr. Throckmorton and I were both in direct contact with Rick and Kay Warren's spokesperson questioning the potential longstanding connection between Saddleback and what is currently happening in Uganda through Ssempa.

The first response we received was from Kay Warren, who said she was quote, "horrified", that there were still mentions of Ssempa on their website. She had staff work through the night to remove every link to Ssempa...


However, Political Research Associates complains that:
In an October 31 statement, Rick Warren distanced himself from one Ugandan antigay activist but that is not good enough. We need him to denounce the bill itself, and challenge his friend Archbishop Henry Orombi's support of it.

PRA is about to release a report on US evangelicals and gay rights in Africa, written by a Zambian Anglican priest named Kapya Kaoma. According to him:
"Rick Warren shows one face in the United States where he says he loves gays, and another face in Africa, which is on the verge of pogroms against this community," said Reverend Kaoma. "We need to hear his voice loud and clear on this issue that gays and lesbians are entitled to full human rights."

PRA also notes that
In March 2008, U.S. evangelical leader Rick Warren told Ugandans that homosexuality is not a natural way of life and thus not a human right.

I blogged this here; and I've some background on Uganda's absurd Ethics and Integrity Minister, James Nsaba Buturo, here.



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What about the Philippines where the police force now has required trained in Purpose Driven Life (PDL) seminars, led by evangelical ministers in a country that is 80% Roman Catholic.  This is part of the "Moral Recovery Program" that is mandated by the Philippine National Police Chief.  I have also seen reports of  Purpose Drive Life programs in the Air Force, Education, Bureau of Jail Management, and pre-employment training.

The Philippine Aviation authority  was reported as budgeting 14 million dollars on a  Spiritual Advancement Values Education (SAVE) program including PDL training. Despite denials, it appeared that these seminars were taking place when the country was scrambling to regain its Category I standing with the FAA. (I have seen the initiation of investigation by the Philippine Senate but not the outcome.)  Posted government updates show the police training as supervised by FOCIG, Fellowship of Christians in Government.  In all the examples I have found this PDL training is administered by evangelicals involved in "transformation" of society through promoting their brand of belief in government.

Are we really supposed to believe that there is nothing political about this?  I guess Warren needs to keep up his "moderate" pubic persona in the U.S. in order to quell alarm over his international activities.

by Rachel Tabachnick on Thu Nov 05, 2009 at 10:51:09 AM EST


and I'd still check the weather and weather forecast.

I think this is just political BS done in order to keep Warren and company out of the spotlight.  I don't believe a word of it... I doubt that Warren's wife was at all horrified (except that maybe she and her husband were being put in the spotlight) and if Warren really means what he says, then he should be a VERY VERY strong supporter of the separation of Church and State.

It is such a small step from "Pastoral" to "Political"- just start mentioning politicians and political parties and try to limit freedom for everyone who isn't dominionist.

Somehow this reminds me of how cockroaches will start scurrying if you turn on a light.

by ArchaeoBob on Thu Nov 05, 2009 at 11:32:15 AM EST



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