School Daze: Religious Right Still Can't Grasp Separation Of Church And School
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Tue Jun 16, 2009 at 12:39:31 PM EST
Yesterday, I took the day off to attend a special end-of-the-year event at my son's school: He and other members of his fifth-grade class wrote and illustrated stories, which they bound in books and read aloud to visiting parents.

As I surveyed the classroom full of eager students and proud parents, I couldn't help but be struck by the diversity. All races were represented, and several kids mentioned being born in other countries.

I'd guess there was a lot of religious diversity there, too. I suspect we had many varieties of Christians in that room, along with Jews, non-believers, Muslims and probably others.

It was a stark example of why we don't preach religion in public schools. Aside from the fact that government is not supposed to sponsor worship, mandating daily prayer or reading from religious texts would be a serious violation of parental rights. It would allow an arm of the government - the public schools - to meddle in a relationship that rightly belongs to parents and their children.

This may sound like a conservative point of view - because it is. So why are so many conservatives unable to grasp it?

Consider Ken Connor, former president of the Family Research Council and now chairman of something called the Center for a Just Society in Washington, D.C.

Connor recently penned a whiny column for The Christian Post making the same arguments we've been hearing for the past 30 years about how the public schools are hostile to religion because they won't let fundamentalist Christians try to convert children.

Connor argues that public schools are teaching their own form of religion because evolution is taught in science classes and kids are taught to respect the rights of students who happen to be gay.

"Thus the classroom, once a forum for critical thought, analysis, and debate that allowed for many competing points of view, is now used to transform raw human material into homogenous batches of progressive, enlightened, politically correct, intellectually timid, and spiritually vacant progeny, ready to shape tomorrow's world," Connor writes.

It's hard to respond to something this nonsensical, but let me try. For starters, if Connor believes public schools are "intellectually timid," he should have been around this year as my daughter, who just finished ninth grade, grappled with her physics homework.

It's especially amusing to hear charges of anti-intellectualism coming from a guy who rejects all of modern biology and believes the Grand Canyon was created by a really heavy rainstorm.

No matter how much evidence piles up, Connor won't accept evolution because his narrow reading of the Bible tells him not to. Never mind that evolution is backed by overwhelming evidence and is considered the guiding principle of modern biology.

Ken, evolution is not a religion; we teach it because we don't want our kids to be ignorant of this.

As for gay rights, my experience is that most schools have anti-bullying policies that are applied across the board. Those who engage in harassment are looking at detention or suspension.

Connor and his gang have churches all over America that throw open their doors every Sunday. But that's not enough for them. Many people choose not to go to those churches, after all, so Connor & Co. want to preach their religion to a captive audience in the public schools.

It's insufferably arrogant. What Connor is essentially saying is that he knows better than you about the proper way to structure the religious lives of your own children.

No thanks, Ken. There are plenty of fundamentalist churches in my town. If my wife and I want to expose our kids to that perspective, we know where to find it. We are well aware of what you're offering and aren't interested. We won't stand for your forcing fundamentalism on our children through the public schools.

Parental rights is a conservative position - and I'm sticking with it.




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You are precisely right. They want no separation of church and state. There are (I read) 7 "mountains" that they plan to control. They include education, media, the economy, government, religion, (and two others). The insidious thing is that they are so good at adapting to anything that gets in their way. Rick Warren, who spoke at the Inaugural of President Obama, uses the ruse that he cares about people in poverty and he just moves around the opposition and keeps growing. Right now many schools teach that Adam and Eve were the first humans (usually they admit that others have theories). What will happen to these children when they get to college? They will seem completely ignorant. This began over 20 years ago and culminated in George W. Bush inviting evangelicals to the White House to help make policy. They convinced him that God had chosen him to save the world. Then they set about placing evangelicals in every part of government. It may be years before we are rid of them, but we can never give up trying. The war Bush started was what he was convinced God had chosen him to do, rid the world of people of color, and turn the U.S. from a democracy to an evangelical church run state. This is the America founded on freedom of religion. For Christians, they have stolen the very meaning of Christ.

by Pollyanna on Tue Jun 16, 2009 at 10:50:50 PM EST

The Ken Connors of this world need a very strong message, that being to "mind their own business." What WE, the People of the United States should do to Connors, is what Barry Goldwater recommended that all good Christians do to Jerry Falwell, "give him a good kick in the ass." Radicals such as Connors, and others of his ilk as no better than the radical Taliban. A POX on all of them. They, and I include Connors, Hagee, Parsley, Robertson, Barton & Dobson were known as Hucksters selling snake oil when I was growing up. They should be prosecuted for sedition for attempting to overthrow the First Amendment to the Bill of Rights of the Constitution of the United States.

by Bonatti on Wed Jun 17, 2009 at 05:46:47 AM EST
Some of the dominionists are publicly calling for the overthrow of the US government- with violence if need be.  They've been doing it for years.

After all, democracy brings about such "horrors" as gay rights and women's rights and the teaching of evolution and protection of minorities (especially religious minorities).

(Cynicism off)

I just don't understand why they aren't being arrested for that.  It IS against the law to advocate overthrowing the US government by violence.

What gets me is that people don't call them what they are: TRAITORS.

by ArchaeoBob on Wed Jun 17, 2009 at 02:02:10 PM EST
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to knock off the name calling, ArcheoBob.

It is also not against the law to say that the government should be overthrown. What is illegal is to actually do something about it or inciting others to take such action. (there is no incitement unless someone is actually incited, BTW.)

There is a tension between the first amendment and criminal law on this point that has been adjudicated. You could look it up.

That does not make it good or right to say such things, and we do our best, at least on this site, to expose their rhetoric and apparent intentions.

But again, there is a difference between blowhard pseudo revolutionaries and people who actually seek violent insurrection.

by Frederick Clarkson on Wed Jun 17, 2009 at 02:16:35 PM EST
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that the difference was between advocating violence and not advocating violence- it seems to me that I read that was the deciding factor.

SIGH.  I don't have the time to do the reading- I'll take your word on it.

(My fear is that these people will go from advocating violence to committing it.)

by ArchaeoBob on Wed Jun 17, 2009 at 02:49:54 PM EST
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but I think that we are wise to avoid using hyperbolic terms like "traitor" "treason" and "sedition" unless they are well supported by facts that show or reasonably suggest actual criminality.

by Frederick Clarkson on Wed Jun 17, 2009 at 06:48:38 PM EST
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Although I'm not quite sure what's included in the term "parental right" in America I feel I must disagree here to some part. As I see it parents DON'T have a right to decide on a child's religion (among other things). That's something of a conscience thing. We, as adults, don't have the right to impose our personal (often peculiar) view on life and the universe on children. In a sense that is the right of society. What I mean by this is that the views of our children comes from a multitude of sources: parents, teachers, music idols, books, friends, etc. And this is as it should be!

Maybe all this stems from my "socialist" European point of view :) Perhaps there is no contradiction here concerning my thought and the parental right idea.

by numberlab on Wed Jun 17, 2009 at 08:15:10 AM EST



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