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wilkyjr	print page
Sun Mar 21, 2010 at 06:15:16 PM EST

Jack Van Impe, Hal Lindsey and similar professional Nostradamus clones, have plenty of job security. All they have to do is sit back and watch the current President. If he fails they respond, "Didn't I tell you guy was no good." If he suceeds they respond, "What do you expect, after all, he's the anti-Christ." Others in the current job market do not enjoy such employment security. Some in the Religious Right have come up with simple solutions to solve the current economic crisis.

Mark Rushdoony is an apple that does not fall far from his father's genetic tree. His father is also the patriarch of the homeschool and Reconstructionist movement. Mark claims the first great depression was caused by the Federal Reserve. This was the result of money management by the government. Writing in his monthly magazine, Mark stated, "A fiat currency is always a managed currency, which takes liberty from the individual and fuels a powerful state. A fiat currency is always an inflated currency, which robs everyone on his wealth and subsidizes the parasitic state." We would all probably be surprised at how much influence this family has had on economic views held by the Tea Party crowd.

The Texas School Board mess, which wants to banish any mention of Thomas Jefferson in text books, has an interesting slant they want published regarding economics. Journalist Bryan Kaylor states that terms "capitalist" are to be replaced with "freemarket" and "free enterprise". The group wants to add economist Friedrich von Hayek to the list of economists for students to study even though he was not among the most influenctial economists in Western history.

Dr. Larry Bates, a former GOP Tennessee congressman, has written a book called "THE NEW ECONOMIC DISORDER. The book is laced with international banker myths and blames the Federal Reserve for ruining the nation. Bates is noted and promoted among the Van Impe crowd as an expert on the economy claiming he was once on the Federal Reserve Board. Bates believes that the end of times events will usher in a time of prosperity for believers much like God protected Joseph and family through Egypt's wealth. This writer believes once you understand how the economy really works in the country you can cash in on the same profits if you will buy and follow his book. Learning how the Federal Reserve manipulates wealth is the secret. Working with the "insiders" is a new slant to conspiracy buffs.

Sarah Palin's new book, GOING ROGUE, is filled with simple formulas on how to revive the economy. The simple solution is to cut taxes. The cash flow problems we have in the nation were caused by the welfare bums getting all those loans according to the former Alaska governor.

With these theories about economic systems you can understand how government run recovery systems are being received. You can understand why in my region there are several bumper stickers with a Bible reference from Psalms 109;8. "May his days be few:" We trust the prayers are a plea for a short term, not a shortened life.

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Job Security/Religious Right Style | 21 comments (21 topical, 0 hidden)

Ignorant of economics (5.00 / 1)

These people know nothing about economics and blithely preach an economic gospel that will do nothing to benefit the ordinary people and everything to benefit the few. The last time we tried a laissez-faire economic system, we had economic panics every 10-20 years, and wealth concentrated in fewer hands, rather like it's doing now.

The Religious Right apparently has decided that God has favorite economic and political systems, which is probably the primary reason why I oppose them.

by khughes1963 on Mon Mar 22, 2010 at 07:08:43 AM EST

Rushdoony/Homeschool (5.00 / 1)

Not all homeschoolers are Rushdoony followers,...... however. Check out the supply house in San Antonio called Vision Forum. I had this criticism from Word Magazine when they ran across an article I had published on homeschool textbooks. Then I found out World had just participated in two homeschool conferences....guess who was there. The entire Rushdoony crowd! In my area "homeschool" is just another word for "dropout."
Rushdoony's admirers claim he was the founder of the movement. Michelle Goldberg has done extensive work on this and finds the link there. It is something we need to take seriously.

by wilkyjr on Mon Mar 22, 2010 at 09:35:48 AM EST

Vision Forum is Doug Phillips's outfit (5.00 / 1)

Kathryn Joyce wrote about Doug Phillips at length in her book "Quiverfull." Phillips's father, Howard Phillips, was a member of the New Right and Doug became a minister with his own church in Texas. Phillips's group markets traditionalist toys and books stressing traditional male/female roles, expresses a lot of nostalgia for the antebellum South and the Confederacy (apparently he ignores the slavery issue) and markets the neo-Confederate Victorian era Elsie Dinsmore novels by Martha Finley.

by khughes1963 on Mon Mar 22, 2010 at 07:39:40 PM EST
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: I also wrote extensively (5.00 / 1)

about Reconstructionism and home schooling in my 1997 book Eternal Hostility: The Struggle Between Theocracy and Democracy, breaking a great deal of new ground at the time.

by Frederick Clarkson on Tue Mar 23, 2010 at 01:55:15 AM EST
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slavery/Rushdonny (5.00 / 1)

It is noted that many in the Rushdoony crowd believe slavery is a viable institution. I have in my files a magazine published from the group about the Civil War. This edition promotes the Old South version of the Civil War and claims it was a Christian South vs. a Unitarian North. We do good to remember this movement believes the Old Testament law is for our nation today.

by wilkyjr on Tue Mar 23, 2010 at 09:08:32 AM EST

Percentage Religious Homeschoolers (5.00 / 1)

The National Center for Educational Statistics study showed there were 1.5 million students homeschooled in 2007 and that 83%, (up from 72% in 2003), homeschool to provide religious or moral instruction.

Over past few months I've been doing an extensive study of homeschooling texts for presentations and for an article. This included reading A Beka history and economics, America's Providential History, other texts and supplemental materials. I collected catalogs, read histories of fundamentalist curriculum, etc.

I have a catalog that is not for religious homeschoolers (and actually has books on evolution) and I've known people who homeschooled for a variety of reasons. However, the right wing religious camp appears to heavily dominate the field. Also there has been an embrace of dominionism by large swaths of charismatics, Pentecostals, and other evangelicals, some of whom would not advertise association with Reconstructionism. Nevertheless they are most definitely dominionists with elaborate campaigns for taking over society and government, and literal end time scenarios that involve becoming end time warriors instead of being raptured.

by Rachel Tabachnick on Tue Mar 23, 2010 at 06:14:53 PM EST

Numbers suspect (1.00 / 1)

The NCES also credits families as 'homeschooling' if their children are enrolled less than 25 hours per week.

In this Brief, students are considered to be homeschooled if their parents reported them as being schooled at home instead of at a public or private school for at least part of their education and if their part-time enrollment in public or private school did not exceed 25 hours a week.

As for the moral instruction, I'm on a secular homeschool email list with atheists who take issue with the implication that those homeschoolers are all conservative Protestant literalists because they, too, homeschool for "moral" reasons. What decent parent doesn't want to educate their children to have reasonably respectably morals??

Perhaps one of you would care to join an atheist homeschool list, and ... get another viewpoint?
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/homeschool_atheists/

by ValerieM on Wed Mar 24, 2010 at 01:55:09 AM EST
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the data seems to be elusive (5.00 / 1)

But so what?

While it would be useful to have harder data regarding homeschooling, exact percentages and numbers are less important for our purposes than describing general trends. Particularly if there are no hard relatively undisputed numbers actually available. That said, I am sure everyone believes you that there are a variety of secular home schoolers and religious folks who are not part of the religious right in any way who also home school, and may even have personal knowledge of this.

But this is not the venue for running an argumentative PR agenda for homeschooling in general.

That said, as I stated above, we would be most interested in you diarying about what must be your considerable knowlege about the religious right and homeschooling.

by Frederick Clarkson on Wed Mar 24, 2010 at 03:46:35 AM EST
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Regulating homeschooling (none / 0)

So, what you still want is a way to regulate homeschooling (because of the Recon threat) ...

http://www.talk2action.org/story/2007/6/6/01931/81512

... and for me (or any other non-Recon homeschooler) to help you do it?

by ValerieM on Wed Mar 24, 2010 at 11:46:21 AM EST
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you seem to have a problem with evidence (none / 0)

Carlos wrote one blog post three years ago. No one told him to write it. No one told him not to. Get a grip.

The featured writers write what they want as long as it is on topic; we do not all agree on everything; and Carlos does not even write here anymore -- (although we do miss him!)

Whether or not home schooling should be regulated more than it is may be a perfectly legitimate discussion, but it is one that has never been a focus of this site. The content of many home school and Christian private school materials certainly has, and will very likely continue to be.

by Frederick Clarkson on Wed Mar 24, 2010 at 01:44:20 PM EST
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: I think I'll let my grip slip on this one ... (none / 0)

My point in commenting at Talk2Action was to help writers be able to appeal more to any homeschooling parents who were so inclined to hold the extreme-right-wing use of homeschooling as a concern. I feel the subject is important, which is why I've continued to read here, but when I've commented, the reception is often less than welcoming. You say I have a problem with evidence, but you discount my experience as, I assume, kind of a 'lying eyes' situation: your research vs. me, my friends and our resources.
Reading how either homeschooling itself is the problem, or how Rushdoony is behind it all isn't helpful to me as a (now-former) homeschooling parent who is concerned about future politicians & gov't workers, and the military. Either I 'apologize' for associating with such an undertaking and actively work to somehow keep 'homeschooling' from allowing these families to whatever it is that is found to be distasteful, or I disregard the entire subject because it doesn't reflect my experience.
The "Christians" (since there are so many varieties) possibly feel under attack, and don't respond, while the secularists possibly feel the discussion is irrelevant to them. In the meantime, many of the diaries I've read here feel antagonistic overall to homeschooling, and yes there are more than the single discussion I referenced:
Search results at Talk2Action:
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Results 1 - 10 of about 277 from www.talk2action.org for homeschool
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Regarding some homeschool resources, is Vision Forum annoying? Yes. They spam one of my addresses regularly even though I've never knowingly even visited their website. But, I 'see' your Vision Forum, and 'raise' you Fun Books.
http://www.fun-books.com/
Is Gothard's character development condescending or manipulative? I guess so, since I've never seen it or heard about it before I came online in the late 1990s, but a flip side to that is Grace Llewellyn's Teenage Liberation Handbook.
http://www.amazon.ca/Teenage-Liberation-Handbook-School-Education /dp/0962959170
Is Rushdoony influential among homeschooling parents? I guess he must be since so many people know about him, but so are John Holt, John Taylor Gatto and Raymond & Dorothy Moore.
I had hoped to give some insight so that the work you do could be more finely calibrated, but that doesn't seem to be happening.
Good luck in your work.

by ValerieM on Mon Mar 29, 2010 at 01:31:16 PM EST
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That's some concentrated crazy, (4.75 / 4)

until you talk to their accountants, huh?

The main drift I seem to pick up from reading the articles here, which I do daily, is that the Christian right is taking a decidedly un-Christlike turn towards a callous lack of empathy and unabated greed, guided by an ever more militant front line.

Since those that oppose their theocratic vision of how the world should look are obviously guided by Satanic forces, they are under no obligation to consider our side of things, period.

by trog69 on Sun Mar 21, 2010 at 09:23:43 PM EST

Not all homeschoolers follow Recon teachings (3.00 / 2)

"Mark Rushdoony is an apple that does not fall far from his father's genetic tree. His father is also the patriarch of the homeschool and Reconstructionist movement."

Yes, indeed, some homeschooling parents follow Reconstructionist teachings, but please don't lump all of us in there. The homeschooling community is as diverse as the general population, since that's where they spring from. Homeschooling's history is broader than just the one segment.

http://home.roadrunner.com/~milhmschlhq/homeschooling_about.htm

(see Histories of homeschooling)

I understand that the Talk2Action article is about economics not about homeschooling, but when you do mention homeschoolers, please don't paint us all with the same brush.

by ValerieM on Mon Mar 22, 2010 at 01:09:31 AM EST

I am aware of this (5.00 / 1)

I know that not all homeschoolers are religious rightists, and parents who decide to homeschool may do so for a variety of reasons. I recently read an article online about a woman who was homeschooling her children for non-religious reasons who had problems finding non-religious right textbooks for her children.

I think there is a tendency among the religious right to want people to believe they are the only homeschoolers out there, or that they are the only legitimate homeschoolers.

by khughes1963 on Mon Mar 22, 2010 at 07:13:54 AM EST
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The vast majority of homeschoolers (5.00 / 1)

are religious homeschoolers. The vast majority of these are conservative Christians of various sorts. Some of these are Reconstructionist or influenced by Reconstructionism in important respects. There is plenty of evidence for this, as a visit to any state homeschooling convention will show.

by Frederick Clarkson on Mon Mar 22, 2010 at 01:24:39 PM EST
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That doesn't come as a surprise (5.00 / 1)

I think it is because of the dominance of the religious right among homeschoolers that people assume that all homeschoolers are members of the religious right.

by khughes1963 on Mon Mar 22, 2010 at 07:41:27 PM EST
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Small, perhaps, but not insignificant (1.00 / 1)

I understand that the conservative right has made a big splash with homeschooling. I'm not questioning that. I'm just putting my oar in the water, as a way of saying "I'm here, and I'm (more or less) reading along."

By way of showing the depth of the silent perhaps-minority of non-religious homeschoolers, in the mid-1990s I was newsletter editor for a homeschool support group in one American military community in Germany. On paper (my mailing list), our group ran about 40 - 45 members, but at meetings we had perhaps half that. One member who I came across one day while out shopping said she loved the newsletter, but didn't enjoy the meetings because of the overtly-religious tone many of the members insisted on taking, so she just got her support via the newsletter. In other military communities in Europe, either without other homeschoolers or with expressly religious groups, I did the same thing via Home Education Magazine (established in 1984), and Growing Without Schooling (no longer published).

As for the size of curriculum fairs, yes, the religiously-oriented fairs are large, but many non-religious homeschoolers shop online or at Borders and Barnes & Noble, so their numbers aren't as readily noticed.

Again, I agree that conservative Protestant literalist homeschoolers appear to be the face of homeschooling, but that isn't the full story. A viewpoint with a built-in organizing factor (hierarchical churches) presents a bigger 'face' than a diaspora of freethinking un-herded cats.

Repeatedly reading the all-homeschoolers-follow-Rushdoony's-viewpoint articles makes me feel as if writers who present us that way are going for the same kind of scare effect that The Other Side uses. The more I read it, the less inclined I am to come here.

Facebook alone (and yes, some groups are very small, but they represent groups across the US):

Secular Homeschool Families
Secular Homeschool
Secular Homeschooling Magazine
Secular Homeschoolers of Portland, Oregon
Homeschooling Freethinkers
The Secular Homeschool
Lafayette Secular Homeschool Families
Secular homeschoolers unite
Secular Homeschoolers of Baltimore
Middle Tennessee Secular Homeschoolers
Secular homeschoolers are people too!
United Homeschoolers of Florida
I homeschool and I teach the science of Evolution
Homeschoolers for EVOLUTION!
John Caldwell Holt--Writer
Free-Range Parent Society
John Taylor Gatto--Other Public Figure
Evolved Homeschoolers

by ValerieM on Wed Mar 24, 2010 at 01:30:21 AM EST
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there is little evidence (5.00 / 1)

that people who are not of a conservative religious persuasion are any more than a small minority of homeschoolers. That said, I have never claimed, as I wrote above that all homeschoolers are Reconstructionists. That would be a silly assertion and anyone who makes it certainly does not know what they are talking about.

That said, this blog is about the religious right and what to do about it. Home schooling is, in fact, a major multifaceted tactic of the religious right. Our interest is in that, not in homeschooling per se. If you would like to tell us what you know about homeschooling and the religious right, we would welcome that.

by Frederick Clarkson on Wed Mar 24, 2010 at 03:25:55 AM EST
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: I don't know much (1.00 / 1)

Srsly. In my 20 years with homeschooling, I haven't been a part of any conservative homeschool group, or if that was the case (the one woman who had the effrontery to ask if one of my daughters believed in god) not for very long.
In my active homeschooling years, I had a brush with only one overt Recon -- a poor fellow who sent me some Chalcedon tripe (this was snail mail years), and who tried enlightening me on the NATO status of forces agreement, which he had bass-ackwards, and I told him so. He didn't deal well with that. Grapevine had it that his poor wife wound up in the hospital for a psych evaluation and they left Germany not long after. In 20 years that is the limit of my personal Recon experience, and it is not very useful as a diary experience or for what to do about Recons in homeschooling. Driving them mad with NATO SOFA clarifications seems to be a limited strategy.
The homeschoolers I've associated myself with have all been 'generic Americans,' meaning that they come from all walks of life. What I have to add to your discussions, if anything, is a refinement in focus regarding statements such as, "His father is also the patriarch of the homeschool and Reconstructionist movement."
The 'patriarch' of my homeschool movement is John Holt, but the active influences were more 'matriarchal' in the legions of mothers who were in support groups, and who wrote articles and books. Women talking to women drive my homeschool experience, not 'patriarchs.'
I'm not intending to mount a PR campaign (as mentioned elsewhere here), only to give you some insight when I see something that might limit your effectiveness in communicating with any readers who homeschool.

by ValerieM on Wed Mar 24, 2010 at 10:32:12 AM EST
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local experience (none / 0)

A few years ago I told some local school teachers that "homeschooling" appeared to be a movement that for everyone who actually did the work 9 others sat around all day and watched Jerry Springer. The teachers corrected me. They told me I was wrong. For every one that did the work 99 played around. I did meet one who tested out of the first few years of math in college, he was only 16 at the time. By my unofficial Gallop poll the %s are hot very high for positive results. In Texas it is forbidden to test homeshoolers. Reason being parents of such fear testing would be a way to impose secular values and since parents are not allowed to see the test beforehand (I wonder why!), they refuse to allow this. The GOP platform in Texas has gone on record as opposing testing for homeschoolers. In my own town many of the students are better off in the school than they would be under the influence of thier parents. On top of this is the Religious Right influence on the text books. I might have to change my opinion on this because as Frederick has posted above, now this revision of history is going to be placed in public schools! In Mississippi there was no manditory attendance for schools. (That has now changed.) Thus if a 6 year old did not want to go it was just ok with this state. Race was a big factor in this by my own estimation. Like local public schools, each is different as well as my own experience and I wish not to impose my experiences or views on other's different experiences.

by wilkyjr on Wed Mar 24, 2010 at 03:49:29 PM EST

....testing paranoia, et al..... (none / 0)

While it is possible to run across those with a secularalist avowed need, the odds run the other way by light years! Here in PA, either a state law or a ruling orders that there be contact with the local school honcho twice a year and that documentation be provided that outside influence(s) have been included [ticket stub for a baseball game, play or classical concert, etc.] for overall rounding out rather than isolating the child to the backwaters of another r.r. literalist church and a parent-chosen & enforced contact base. The problem is that it's only as good as the local intent, via casual contact, to make it so, and, more often than not, the reason(ing) is to the contrary. I am hardly a fan. Some may rock along w/o obvious difficulty until 7th/8th grade math presents a brick wall to the parent's ability, but how is that hurdled? The local community college in most cases, where a couple of pre-college credit 'remedial' courses may satisfy the lack, but when the kid is 'bright' & more or less educates himself via reading if he has access to library & materials, contact with 'dull' remediates is hardly an equivalent for mental satisfaction or requirements of a "liberal" broadening experience. For the parent to take that route is also hypocritical: exclude when convenient, utilize when needed by holes or lacks of competence. The same may be said for the Physical Education requirement, for which the "homeschooling crowd" had enough political contact to get a law, yes...a law, that says homeschooled kids must be allowed to PLAY on a district 'team' like soccer or basketball to satisfy the p.e. requirement, not just join in into a class 2 or 3 times a week. I was & have been quite vocal about my objections to such, and PA is one of a very few, if at all, states which allow a similar solution. It's the "social" loss that is so crucial, and acceptance by regular public school kids of these interlopers for their 2 or 3 hours per week is more likely met by awkwardness or taunts, a growing problem for that age-group of teens anyway. PA also has a fully-computer-option, run from Pittsburgh, that may service some needs also {remember that this is where one Rick Santorum's residency became an issue for him & his offspring, and he solved the problem by accepting VA residency and another non-public school via computer down there!}. If or when the social aspect is paramount, homeschooled means dropout for me [like Don], and the vast majority of those students are neither college-ready nor employment savvy, where the rubber hits the road!

Can sports answer the child's needs, when exposure to dominionist or conspiratorial theories or views is all he hears at home? And now we have the "Tea Party" surfacing bunch overlapping exponentially: what's a bright kid to do? I worry about them rather than the legion of opposites.
Arden C. Hander

by achbird65 on Sun Mar 28, 2010 at 08:16:21 AM EST

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