Ron Paul's Vision of the Nation
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Author Kim Barker wrote the best seller, The Taliban Shuffle.  She noted her impression of the Afghanistan country after a few days of travel.  She wrote it was full of bearded men riding around in pickups with plenty of weapons and hatred for the country.  She proclaimed it was just like Montana!
Many Religious Right candidates find themselves as front runners for national office.  What makes some observers scratch their heads is the fact that that these types have spent a lifetime spewing anti-government sentiment.  Now they find themselves headed toward leading an organization they have held in such disgust.
Pat Robertson comes to mind with his conspiracy theory in New World Order.  Robertson virtually designated every government agency as bent toward destruction of the nation.  Jerry Falwell's long tradition of bashing the state as a demonic organization riddled with conspiracy found him in strange company when he was asked to help pick the Vice President.

Ron Paul has turned anti-government theories into a cottage industry.  Now some propose to allow him to lead an institution he so despised.  It is the old right wing Republican problem of denouncing government as the problem and then proposing to lead something you do not like.  I still have in my files Paul's support of school vouchers.  It was based on the idea that Paul did not even like the idea of public education.

Mike Lofgren, a former GOP leader, laments the fact that now "The Congressional Directory reads like a casebook of lunacy." He claimed it was more like an "apocalyptic cult."

Our regional Congressman, Louie Gohmert, from Lufkin, went to the floor of the U.S. Congress saying there was a secret plot to bring pregnant Muslim women into the country to deliver terrorist babies.  The Southern Poverty Law Center commented on this theory noting Louie had no evidence for such.

Ron Paul, according to Reuters, is linked to letters advising followers of conspiracies to cover up AIDS, promote the Israel lobby and financial plots to disrupt the economy.  Here is a candidate who allowed his name to be used to state that American money had traces of metal used to spy on U.S. citizens to keep track of them.  www.newsone.com in May noted that Ron Paul supports and defends the John  Birch Society as a lifetime supporter.  Paul does not even believe the Civil War was a just war.  Paul's view of the world fits the JBS conspiracy model to the T.

How Religious Right backers will support Paul's libertine views will be interesting to say the least.  He supports getting the government out of prohibition of narcotics and vice.  Libertine Paul does not believe in government anything.  I am not sure he supports the idea of public highways.  He has links to Christian Reconstruction which believes the only legitimate government organization is the local sheriff.  The Oklahoma Observer noted that Paul wasn't joking in his debate about allowing nature to take its course on government supported health care.  Paul's former campaign leader, Kent Snyder died from complications of pneumonia.  He did not have health insurance nor did he have the funds to get treatment.  Dr. Paul saw this as just allowing the free market to take its course.

A lot of observers have given Paul a free ride because he has opposed the war in Afghanistan and Iraq.  His family values platform is also attractive to Libertarians who decry government at just about any intersection of the neighborhood.  His ideas on federal regulations on business, the environment and radical reduction of taxes appeals to some.  Just exactly how someone who has made a living bashing the federal government could actually lead it is at least, interesting. Finding fundamentalist pastors to support a candidate who wants to legalize prostitution and heroin might be hard to do.




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I am always amused when some blowhard preacher starts prattling about the "New World Order".  If you read the goals of the NAR and dominionists in general, that is EXACTLY what they are trying to accomplish, but with them at the top.  It's a case of projection.  Since they want themselves at the top, it's also a case of greed and selfishness, pure and simple.

I also get highly amused when someone like Ron Paul comes along and decries medical help as "not letting nature take its course".  If they then talk anything about religion, they're violating some of the central tenets of most religions.  Not only that, but animals are known to use plants as medicine and recent discoveries show that early humans were well aware of the different characteristics of plants that could be used in a medicinal way (and for insect repellent).

What they're actually doing is buying into Social Spencerism, which has been disproved time and time again (the falsely named "Social Darwinism").  Survival of the fittest does not mean and never did mean denying medical help to those who need it - after all, we now know that people have used plants in a medical way for at least several tens of thousands of years (and probably a LOT longer).  

Since Social Spencerism so strongly supports the 1% (the status quo) and elite greed, that is clearly the real reason for the denial of public medical care.  They want it all for themselves and nothing for anyone else.

I believe we can tie just about all of the conservative causes (and the players) to greed and selfishness.  Ron Paul is no exception.  He's no better than the others and maybe even a bit more dangerous, because people don't think to look at more than their own pet issues (referring to anti-war progressives).

by ArchaeoBob on Fri Dec 30, 2011 at 11:37:14 AM EST

Ron Paul's opinions on health care seem unduly heartless, and I agree with Archeobob's effort to characterize them as such. Paul's views are those of a committed libertarian. He basically want to mininimize the role of government in a variety of spheres of life, including education and heath care. He has not stated that people should be allowed to die if they lacked insurance (as some of his followers apparently rather gleefully think) but rather that charitable hospitals should take over the government's role in caring for those without medical insurance. 

Applying the principle of charity :-) in my reading of Archeobob's post, his contention that Paul holds to a Spenserian view seems logical given that Spenser is widely regarded as having prefigured libertarianism. So it behoves us to make an examination of the views held by Spenser, as generally understood by the misnomer Social Darwinism :-)).

Spenser believed, contrary to the views held by Darwin, in a Lamarckian transmission of traits as acquired from experience as opposed to our modern understanding of a genetic mechanism of inheritance. This false idea led Spenser to believe that encouraging benevolence would lead to an improvement in the inherited moral characteristics of the benevolents' offspring. This, in his view, was of far greater utility to society than if  the same services had been provided by government. The shadowy corollary to his advocacy of charitable giving was his view that benevolence should be balanced with an understanding that suffering also played a positive role in reforming the deficiencies in character of the 'undeserving' poor. 

That Ron Paul holds to this set of blatantly unscientific Lamarckian principles is doubtful.  Additionally ArcheoB asserts a claim that Ron Paul has never actually made: ie that the denying of medical help to those that are in need is justified by the darwinian doctrine of 'survival of the fittest'

But he is right in his (irrelevant) recognition that the use of the concept of 'survival of the fittest' does not entail denial of health care. It never did. The term 'survival of the fittest' was in fact a term invented by Spenser to encapsulate Darwinian concepts, and was not coined by Darwin himself. Spenser used the term specifically in terms of the economic competition between individuals and corporations and had no application in his characterization of charitable acts, be it with regards to healthcare or otherwise. 

And to set the record straight, Darwin's views on the survival of the weak, as expressed in the Descent of Man, are not so dissimilar to those of Spenser himself:

"We must therefore bear the undoubtedly bad effects of the weak surviving and propagating their kind; but there appears to be at least one check in steady action, namely that the weaker and inferior members of society do not marry so freely as the sound; and this check might be indefinitely increased by the weak in body or mind refraining from marriage, though this is more to be hoped for than expected."

Archeobob would have made a far more cogent case against libertarianism if he had stuck to developing an argument against Spenserian economics or by providing a no-brainer argument on behalf of universal health care to counter Paul's incoherent views.

  

by PastorJennifer on Mon Jan 02, 2012 at 05:29:07 PM EST
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What, mass spit-ups or diarrhea?

Truly, this Congresscritter Lofgren is embarrassingly dim.

by NancyP on Fri Dec 30, 2011 at 08:32:27 PM EST


Major networks seem uninterested in researching the history Paul has.

by wilkyjr on Tue Jan 03, 2012 at 01:58:24 PM EST


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