Islam, Religious Violence, "Brainwashing," and Countersubversion
Chip Berlet printable version print page     Bookmark and Share
Fri Mar 11, 2011 at 10:22:45 AM EST
The hearing on Islamic radicalization staged by Rep. Peter King is an appalling example of the media being sucker-punched.

Where in the recent news coverage were interviews with social scientists who actually study how religious ideology can intersect with violence and terrorism? Let's start with some basics.

People do not become religious fundamentalists because they have been "brainwashed," coerced, or are mentally unstable. They become involved in social movement mobilization and recruitment built around themes of religious obligation.

Most religious fundamentalists are not violent.

There is no direct causal relationship linking religious fundamentalism and violence.

When religious fundamentalists use violence or terrorism, the single most significant common factor is a sense of humiliation. As Jessica Stern, an actual expert on religion and terrrorism, explains:

"...one of the primary tasks of a religious terrorist leader is to capitalize on some feeling of humiliation, often related to identity, that they find in potential members. It could be a personal feeling of humiliation, or it could be civilizational, national. They make their followers feel that the way to forge a new identity is by getting involved with this violent group." [More Here]
There should be serious hearings on the potential for terrorism in our society and how to protect our nation without tossing the Bill of Rights into the shredder. Actual experts should give testimony. Experts like Jessica Stern, author of Terror in the Name of God: Why Religious Militants Kill.

Instead we have the Lieberman hearings where ideologically-biased testimony is presented at hearings led by a smart and cynical hypocrite who uses his stage for political gain.

And we have the King hearings led by a witch-hunter so ignorant and bigoted that he probably would have lost a game of tic tac toe against Joe McCarthy.

Over at the National Catholic Reporter is an excellent article on the link between the King and McCarthy hearings by Michael Sean Winters [More Here]

The theoretical linkage is a concept called "countersubversion," which is a fancy name for a political or religious witch hunt. As readers at Talk to Action know, this is one of my pet areas of research.

Historian David Brion Davis noted that movements to counter the "threat of conspiratorial subversion acquired new meaning in a nation born in revolution and based on the sovereignty of the people," and that in the US," crusades against subversion have never been the monopoly of a single social class or ideology, but have been readily appropriated by highly diverse groups."

Frank Donner. a historian and civil libetiers attorney, perceived an institutionalized culture of countersubversion in the United States "marked by a distinct pathology: conspiracy theory, moralism, nativism, and suppressiveness." This countersubversion hysteria is linked to government attempts to disrupt and crush dissident social movements in the United States.

Donner suggeted that conspiracists in the government and private sector periodically create a "countersubversive" apparatus as a response to dissent.

The FBI's counterintelligence program of illegally spying on and disrupting dissidents from the 1950s to the 1970s, dubbed COINTELPRO, is an example of an operational conspiracy ironically based on a conspiracist worldview that suspected widespread subversion by leftists.

Davis points out that:

"genuine conspiracies have seldom been as dangerous or as powerful as have movements of countersubversion. The exposer of conspiracies necessarily adopts a victimized, self-righteous tone which masks his own meaner interests as well as his share of responsibility for a given conflict.

Accusations of conspiracy conceal or justify one's own provocative acts and thus contribute to individual or national self-deception. Still worse, they lead to overreactions, particularly to degrees of suppressive violence which normally would not be tolerated."

How long before the mainstream media repudiates this new witch hunt?



Display:
Religious fundamentalists can be quite violent, but it's an in-group thing.  They use violence to keep the members in line.

Sometimes that violence is physical.   Most of the time it is mental or emotional (or social), and I can argue that these forms of violence are real and can be just as devastating as physical violence.  

They also use fear and humiliation to keep people in line, and those are in a sense forms of violence.  

I think the distinction between fundamentalists and terrorists needs to be between in-group and outside-group violence.  Also, this would explain why fundamentalist groups can become terrorist, because if their violent tendencies are directed outward (as well as inward), they will commit terrorism.

Maybe we could say that there is a spectrum here, from the barely fundamentalist clear to the most violent terrorist.  Now, at the same time there seem to be common elements that are found in fundamentalist groups, and other elements (such as the humiliation or perception of humiliation you described) that seem to be more connected to terrorism.  This would fit right into the spectrum concept too.

Many Muslims don't even begin to fall into the fundamentalist category, and thus the whole worldview pushed by King is completely wrong.  Someone also needs to inform him that Christianity has just as much a terrorism problem as Islam, and the problem is the common elements found on the fundamentalist-to-terrorist spectrum.

One of those common elements is hatred and fear of the Other.  Another is the perception of group superiority and Other inferiority.  Many of these characteristics have been mentioned before.

by ArchaeoBob on Fri Mar 11, 2011 at 01:55:37 PM EST

I see ArchaeoBob's comments as an expansion on Chip's post; I don't see a disagreement necessarily between the post and comment. Chip states that most fundamentalists are not violent. ArchaeoBob states that when there is violence there are degrees of it, and it can be directed in-group or towards outsiders.

Perhaps instead or in addition to the idea of a spectrum running from fundamentalist to terrorist would be an axis graph showing the points where where fundamentalist beliefs and use of terrorism connect. For instance, some of the most extreme forms of fundamentalist Christianity are not equally the most likely to embrace terrorism; these forms may include a withdrawal from society, nearly the opposite of terrorism.

by IseFire on Fri Mar 11, 2011 at 05:00:44 PM EST
Parent

The operational connection is totalist control through intense psychological coercion.

Here is an exchange from Facebook:

Janja Lalich: Chip, You may not like the word "brainwashing," but you can't deny that some people are strongly influenced by the people around them in those social movements, who help "convince them" (dare I say, psychologically coerced?) to engage in violence. I'm not for a witch hunt, either -- but we shouldn't overlook the powerful social psychological mechanisms that sway individuals toward acts of extremism that they may not have otherwise participated in. It takes more than ideology.

- - -

Chip Berlet: Hi Janja. You know I respect your work, and I accept your criticism as constructive. I should have explained more about my frustration about how the term brainwashing was being used to suggest the average Mosque engages in it, when that is... not true.

Do I think that some small groups within Islam qualify as totalitarian and use high demand coercive psychological techniques to bind a recruit to the new identity? Yes. And we both certainly agree that such manipulative techniques are powerful in the totalist groups we have both studied.

My point is that if some member of Congress scheduled hearings about how coercive psychological techniques can be used to promote religious violence (in Islam, Judaism, Christianity, Hinduism, etc,), or political violence, and invited you or any of a dozen actual experts on totalist formations that both of us could name off the top of our heads--then I would be applauding.

_ _ _

Chip Berlet: Research for Progress - Building Human Rights
by Chip Berlet on Sat Mar 12, 2011 at 01:16:10 AM EST
Parent
I doubt it would happen, because the Pentecostal/Dominionist/Fundamentalist churches wouldn't stand for being examined.

This raises the whole separation of church and state issue.   By singling out Muslims, the jackass is violating that.

Cultural pressures and issues are also important in the discussion.  Many of the things the Religious Right is ranting about concerning Muslims are actually based on local cultures and not on Islam.  The power of culture on individuals is generally misunderstood and taken too lightly.


by ArchaeoBob on Sat Mar 12, 2011 at 07:47:37 AM EST
Parent

I work with fundamentalists across several religions who agree with me.  So please paint with a finer brush.
_ _ _

Chip Berlet: Research for Progress - Building Human Rights
by Chip Berlet on Sat Mar 12, 2011 at 10:41:57 AM EST
Parent
Chip, I've read testimonies and life stories from walkaways who not only left dominionism, but from fundamentalist groups of all descriptions including ones that are considered rather peaceful (exception being Muslim - I've only known a few Muslims including a couple that are colleagues.)  Coercion is ALWAYS a characteristic of fundamentalist groups (so much so that I consider it part of the definition).  They may not show that coercion (and the mental/emotional violence) to outsiders, but the people who escape them always have similar stories of being pressured and coerced to conform to the group (or at the least face devastating changes and expulsion if they do not).

I rather imagine Muslim fundamentalist groups are similar.  I haven't talked with my colleagues about it.

Deception and putting on a false front are also characteristic of fundamentalist as well as dominionist groups.  They don't want people to see what really goes on inside.

In fact, there are fundamentalist groups (opposed to theocracy) in the US that may be as coercive and tending towards brainwashing and micromanagement of the members as the Assemblies of God or the NAR, strange as that may sound.   The stories of sexual abuse and so on are just as frequent as well.  I've 'talked' with people who walked from the UPC, and the churches they left were absolutely anti-dominionist, but they were still so coercive and abusive that the people who left could barely function.  The church did not want to take over the world or the country - they wanted to be left alone.  Yet they treated their members as badly as some NAR walkaways have reported.

I don't care that much about what they believe, because there is difference in belief within each group, not to mention the differences between the groups within a category (such as the NAR).  What I'm concerned about is how they treat people - both within the group and without.  To me that is what is critical, because I care about their victims.

On this we will have to disagree.  You say I am stereotyping and painting with too broad a brush.  From my perspective you seem to be splitting hairs and ignoring some pretty strong commonalities that I have observed over the years.  

by ArchaeoBob on Sat Mar 12, 2011 at 01:43:48 PM EST
Parent







Chip, I appreciate all of your work on government repression and terrorism issues, but I have to take issue with you claim that "[w]hen religious fundamentalists use violence or terrorism, the single most significant common factor is a sense of humiliation."  This is not the case.  Social scientists Scott Atran and Jeremy Ginges have found that humiliation is a negative predictor of involvement with terrorism, at least amongst Palestinians living in the West Bank and Gaza. (Abstract for their paper is here).  See also Atran's recent book, Talking to the Enemy: Faith, Brotherhood and the (Un)making of Terrorists.

-------------
"I believe in a President whose views on religion are his own private affair" - JFK, Address to the Greater Houston Ministerial Association
by hardindr on Sun Mar 13, 2011 at 05:14:43 PM EST


WWW Talk To Action


Short Takes -- Taking Action Edition
Banned Books Week is being celebrated this year from Sept. 21-27.  Yes its time for the annual celebration of the Freedom to Read, sponsored......
By Frederick Clarkson (0 comments)
Archbishop Schnurr Throws Cold Water on the Ice Bucket Challenge
The Ice Bucket Challenge has been an outstanding success in raising both awareness and research money needed to find a cure for Amyotrophic lateral......
By Frank Cocozzelli (0 comments)
The Secret Antigay U.S. Money Behind The WCF and the Global Evangelical War on LGBT Rights
[note to readers: this is an excerpt from my first installment in a Twocare.org/Center Against Religious Extremism series that will examine extensive ties -......
By Bruce Wilson (0 comments)
Race as Religion
Reading Edith Beer's book, The Nazi Officer's Wife, I ran across an interesting account of her fake marriage license.  She married a Nazi officer......
By wilkyjr (1 comment)
Dark Discussions on the Christian Right
The Neo-Confederate movement has been trying to jump start itself of late.  It has been an especially heady few months for the League of......
By Frederick Clarkson (1 comment)
Oath Oaf: Religious Right Columnist Calls For Religious Tests In Military
Bryan Fischer, the director of issues analysis for the American Family Association (AFA) is like a demented, right-wing geyser: You can count on him......
By Rob Boston (1 comment)
Deeper Background on Dominionism -- Revisisted
In the Fall of 2011, there was an extraordinary -- and extraordinarily scurrilous -- wave of criticism aimed at those of us who had......
By Frederick Clarkson (0 comments)
Fall From Grace: What The Religious Right Should Learn From The McDonnell Scandal
Leaders of Religious Right groups are fond of telling us that if we elect more fundamentalist Christians to office, we'll have less corruption. Biblical......
By Rob Boston (2 comments)
A Visit To The Reality Community: Americans Have Sex. Americans Use Birth Control. Let's Move On.
Over the weekend, Americans United Senior Litigation Counsel Greg Lipper took part in a panel discussion about the Supreme Court's Hobby Lobby decision at......
By Rob Boston (3 comments)
Thomas DiLorenzo's Rebel Yelling
I have written a great deal in the past few years about the odd phenomenon of Catholic Neo-Confederatism.  Let's add one more name to......
By Frank Cocozzelli (2 comments)
Censorship Challenge: Texas Pastor Seeks Restrictions On `Dangerous' Library Books
Back in the 1990s, some Religious Right activists in Virginia got the bright idea to begin attacking America's public libraries. The idea was to......
By Rob Boston (1 comment)
Suspended St. Louis County Officer Dan Page Made Rounds on Rightwing Radio Shows
St. Louis Police Officer Dan Page drew national attention when he shoved CNN's Don Lemon during a broadcast of the protests in Ferguson, and......
By Rachel Tabachnick (1 comment)
Cop Who Shoved CNN Host Don Lemon Lassoed in Another Conspiracy Rodeo
Rachel Tabachnick broke an important story this evening showing that the rant by Officer Dan Page that got him suspended from the St.Louis County......
By Frederick Clarkson (0 comments)
Exile Excitement: Some Fundamentalists Seek Escape From Decadent Society
OK, now we've done it. Those of us who advocate things like separation of church and state, secular government, LGBT rights and self-determination when......
By Rob Boston (2 comments)
Controversy Over White Nationalist GOP Candidate Still White Hot
The 2004 Constitution Party candidate for president Michael Peroutka's current race for County Council in Maryland -- as a Republican -- it is still......
By Frederick Clarkson (0 comments)

Deconstructing the Dominionists, Part VI
This is part 6 of a series by guest front pager Mahanoy, originally dated November 15, 2007 which I had to delete and repost for technical reasons. It is referred to in this post,......
Frederick Clarkson (0 comments)
Republican infighting in Mississippi
After a bruising GOP runoff election for U.S. Senator, current MS Senator Thad Cochran has retained his position and will face Travis Childers (Democrat) in the next senate election. The MS GOP is fractured......
COinMS (2 comments)
America's Most Convenient Bank® refuses to serve Christians
Representatives of a well known faith-based charitable organization were refused a New Jersey bank’s notarization service by an atheist employee. After inquiring about the nature of the non-profit organization and the documents requiring......
Jody Lane (3 comments)
John Benefiel takes credit for GOP takeover of Oklahoma
Many of you know that Oklahoma has turned an unrecognizable shade of red in recent years.  Yesterday, one of the leading members of the New Apostolic Reformation all but declared that he was responsible......
Christian Dem in NC (2 comments)
John Benefiel thinks America is under curse because Egyptians dedicated North America to Baal
You may remember that Rick Perry put together his "Response" prayer rallies with the help of a slew of NAR figures.  One of them was John Benefiel, an Oklahoma City-based "apostle."  He heads up......
Christian Dem in NC (2 comments)
Mississippi Religious Freedom Restoration Act.
Yes, that's right. We have totally lost our religious freedom in Mississippi and it must be restored by our legislators. ......
COinMS (1 comment)
Bill Gothard accused of harassing women and failing to report child abuse
Surprised no one's mentioned this, but one of the longest-standing leaders of the religious right is in a world of trouble.  Bill Gothard has been active in the fundie movement for over half......
Christian Dem in NC (1 comment)
Eugene Delgaudio may lose his day job as Virginia county supervisor
Surprised no one's noticed this, but one of the nation's most virulent homophobes is in a fight to keep his day job.  Eugene Delgaudio is best known as the head of Public Advocate......
Christian Dem in NC (0 comments)
Starkville Becomes First City in Mississippi to Pass Resolution Recognizing LGBT Residents
This caught me by surprise. I guess times are a changin in Dixieland. ------------------------------------- Cross posted from the HRC blog. Starkville Becomes First City in Mississippi to Pass Resolution Recognizing LGBT Residents January 21,......
COinMS (0 comments)
Robert Knight: Running against evolution could potentially be a winner for the GOP
In one of the starkest instances yet of how far gone the religious right is, one of its leading activists thinks that he's found another potential wedge issue that could drive more people into......
Christian Dem in NC (2 comments)
First Catholic official convicted in child sex abuse scandal has conviction overturned
Last year, Monsignor William Lynn, the Archdiocese of Philadelphia's secretary for clergy, was convicted of reassigning a priest whom he knew had molested a young boy to a parish that had a school attached......
Christian Dem in NC (0 comments)
Quotes From Sarah Palin 'War on Christmas" Book v. Quotes From 1920s Anti-Jewish Propaganda
The point of this comparison is not to cast Sarah Palin as a Nazi. Rather, my intent is to underline uncomfortable similarities between contemporary "war on Christmas" talking points propagated by elements of the......
Bruce Wilson (0 comments)
Francis sets up commission on how to deal with pedophile priests
Late yesterday Pope Francis announced--apparently after some prodding--that he will set up a panel to advise him on how to deal with child abuse by priests. The announcement was a forthright acknowledgment by the......
Christian Dem in NC (0 comments)
John Hagee: Jews will make deal with Antichrist before End Times
When John Hagee opens his mouth, you expect to hear lunacy.  An appearance earlier this month on TBN was no different.  On Friday, People for the American Way stumbled on a special prophecy-focused edition......
Christian Dem in NC (0 comments)
Doug Phillips Resigns From Vision Forum over "Inappropriate Relationship"
Doug Phillips resigned as president of Vision Forum earlier this week, citing an "inappropriate relationship."   Phillips posted an announcement on the Vision Forum website, stating, There has been serious sin in my life......
Rachel Tabachnick (2 comments)

More Diaries...




All trademarks and copyrights on this page are owned by their respective companies. Comments, posts, stories, and all other content are owned by the authors. Everything else 2005 Talk to Action, LLC.