Ron Paul to Speak at Holocaust Denier's 'Gala Dinner Fundraiser'
Bruce Wilson printable version print page     Bookmark and Share
Fri Sep 06, 2013 at 07:50:18 PM EST
In a heated September 5th interview with MSNBC's Alex Wagner, Former U.S. Congressman Ron Paul, who is currently surfing a wave of mainstream media appearances due to his strong criticism of the push from the Obama Administration for U.S. military intervention in Syria, defended his planned September 11th, 2013 keynote address at a "gala dinner fundraiser" to be held during a controversial [also see 1, 2] conference organized by a fringe, schismatic Catholic organization accused of virulent anti-Semitism, the Fatima Center.

According to a new report, Ron Paul's association with Fatima Center leaders, including Fatima Center head Father Nicholas Gruner -- who has espoused Holocaust denial, traces back at least as far as 1998.

During the September 5th interview, MSNBC's Wagner confronted Paul with the fact that the Fatima Center has been called a "hard-core anti-Semite group" and has in the past published writing suggesting that Jews should be stripped of certain civil rights -- a suggestion also once made by one of the speakers, Father Paul Leonard Kramer, who will join Ron Paul at the upcoming Fatima Center "Path To Peace" conference to be held September 8th to 13th in Niagara Falls, Ontario.

Former Congressman Paul responded to MSNBC correspondent Wagner's challenge by flatly refusing to reconsider his planned appearance at the Fatima Center conference and by accusing Wagner of "Catholic bashing."

Also joining Former Congressman Ron Paul (R-TX) at the event will be speakers who have promoted Holocaust denial and portrayed global warming as a hoax that will be used to justify a Jewish and Israeli-led genocide of most of the Earth's population, and who reject the long-established scientific fact that the Earth orbits the Sun.  

Fatima Center head Father Nicholas Gruner, and other top leaders associated with the center, have for over two decades promoted claims that a global conspiracy of wealthy "apostate Jews" and Freemasons -- who are alleged to have financed Hitler and the Nazis and hold a "Hitler-like doctrine of exterminating the gentile races and repopulating the Earth with their own kind" -- is plotting to institute a "New World Order" global government under the command of the anti-Christ.

The Southern Poverty Law Center, which tracks far-right, racist and anti-Semitic groups, identifies the Fatima Center as part of the  "'radical traditionalist Catholic' movement, [which is] perhaps the single largest group of hard-core anti-Semites in North America."  

That SPLC characterization was based in part, on the organization's landmark 2006 report, by SPLC researcher Heidi Beirich, Radical Traditionalist Catholics Spew Anti-Semitic Hate, Commit Violence Against Jews, which was careful to note that such "Radical Traditionalist" Catholic groups deviate substantially from official Catholic Church teachings, positions, and doctrine, and can be considered a fringe tendency within the stream of orthodox and Traditionalist Catholic groups as well.

Gruner, a defrocked Catholic priest who has repeatedly portrayed the Vatican as at least partly controlled by the alleged satanic conspiracy, recently went on record suggesting that the commonly-accepted Jewish death toll in the Holocaust had been substantially inflated. As Father Gruner explained to the Washington Free Beacon:

Are we talking about the six million Jews that are alleged to been killed by Hitler? A question that nobody has been able to answer for me, is how can you have six million die, and have 13 million left, when you only had 13 million to start with? I think it's impossible. But you know, I'm open-minded. I'll listen to somebody who can prove it otherwise.

Father Gruner is not the only Holocaust denier scheduled to speak at the upcoming Fatima Center along with Ron Paul. Another is Catholic lawyer Robert Sungenis -- who has been identified by the Southern Poverty Law Center as "one of the most rabid and open antisemites in the entire radical traditionalist movement".

In a document posted in 2011 on his personal website, Robert Sungenis wrote, echoing Gruner:  

What I question is whether 6 million Jews were killed by the Nazis. I simply find that figure hard to believe, not only because the then current records show that the worldwide Jewish population in 1948 was virtually the same as it was in 1940, but also because there is easily obtainable documented evidence that only a few hundred thousand Jews lost their lives in Nazi internment camps.

According to the Jewish Chronicle, Sungenis has also stated:

"The statistics show us that there was no large difference between the number of Jews living in 1939 as there were living in 1948, so how could six million Jews have died between those two periods?"

In June 2011, Sungenis' views on the Holocaust led to a last-minute cancellation of a UK Orthodox Catholic conference scheduled to be held at Westminster Hall. Sungenis and Father Paul Kramer had been invited to speak at the event.

Also in 2011, Father Gruner's Fatima Center published an op-ed in defense of Catholic traditionalist Bishop Richard Williamson, of the Society of St. Pius X, who was then on trial, in German court, for a statement he had made during an interview on Swedish television,

"I believe that the historical evidence, the historical evidence is strongly against, is, is, hugely against, six million Jews having been deliberately gassed in gas chambers as a deliberate policy of Adolf Hitler."

In the March 28, 2011 Fatima Center op-ed, author Edwin Faust stated that "there is a paucity of physical evidence" concerning the Nazi use of gas chambers and went on, "Most accounts of the gas chambers at concentration camps are anecdotal."

Faust then described Bishop Williamson's reliance on the so-called "Leuchter Report", a pseudo-scientific study conducted by the American Fred Leuchter, who had established a career in designing and building execution system used by states with capital punishment.

Although discredited, the 1988 Leuchter Report -- which is celebrated in Holocaust denial circles -- purported to disprove Nazi mass-gassing of prisoners at the Auschwitz death camp. Leuchter had little or no engineering or scientific training relevant for making such an assessment.

Faust's Fatima Center op-ed reserved judgment on the validity of the Leuchter Report, but went on to  portray Bishop Williamson, Fred Leuchter, and noted Holocaust denialist Ernst Zundel as victims of persecution who "discovered that it is dangerous to speak freely about certain things".

While recent scholarship has shed light on the moral complicity of the Catholic Church in helping stoke anti-Semitism and for failing to publicly speak out against Nazi persecution and extermination of Europe's Jews, the Vatican nonetheless acknowledges that Hitler and the Nazis killed roughly six million Jews and has formally apologized for its inaction.

Holocaust denialism is not the only crank theory promoted by Fatima Center leaders.  

In an April 2011 broadcast of the Center's "Fatima Today" show, Nicholas Gruner and Father Paul Leonard Kramer, who works closely with and often makes public appearances with Gruner, discussed their belief that global climate change is a hoax, perpetrated by members of the alleged global Jewish Freemasonry conspiracy -- which they suggested includes Henry Kissinger, Former U.S. President George H.W. Bush, Former Vice President Al Gore, and Former U.S.S.R. head Mikhail Gorbachev -- to justify the killing of up to six billion people by, according to Gruner, "starvation or by guns or by gas chambers or by whatever".

Speakers slated for the upcoming Fatima Center conference go further still. Two speakers joining Ron Paul at the event are Catholic lawyers Robert Sungenis and John Salza, who are in the Catholic vanguard of a movement of "geocentrists" who reject the heliocentric model of the Solar System (that was accepted by the Roman Catholic Church centuries ago) and maintain that the Sun and all the celestial objects in the heavens rotate around the Earth once per 24-hour period.

In 2010, Sungenis and Salza could be found, along with several of their Protestant geocentrist counterparts, at the First Annual Catholic Conference on Geocentrism, held at the Hilton Garden Inn in South Bend, Indiana. Sungenis is author of the book (and website by the same name) "Galileo Was Wrong".

As researcher Rachel Tabachnick described in an August 23, 2013 report on the upcoming Fatima Center conference in Niagara, ON, the original roster of speakers scheduled to join Former Congressman Paul at the event also included professed neofascist Italian politician Roberto Fiore, various far-right American radical Catholic traditionalists associated with the Fatima Center who have also promoted anti-Jewish variants of "New World Order" conspiracy theory, and the President of the John Birch Society John McManus.

Another notable event speaker will be Father Karl Stehlin, Society of St. Paul X District Supervisor of Eastern Europe, who in 1998 stoked a controversy concerning Christian crosses placed in a field bordering on the former Nazi concentration camp of Auschwitz. In defiance of Catholic authorities, Stehlin blessed crosses placed at the site by Polish citizens who promoted the view that "Jews controlled the government and the church."

In addition, speaking at the event will be Barbara Skurnowicz, President of the Michigan group Healthcare Professionals For Vaccine Choice -- a group which fights against mandatory vaccination and promotes the claim, generally considered to have been disproved, that certain vaccines can trigger autism in children.

The Fatima Center "Path To Peace" conference will not be the first time that Ron Paul has collaborated with leaders from the Fatima Center and the John Birch Society, in promoting "New World Order" conspiracy theory, according to new findings from researcher Rachel Tabachnick.  

In 1998, five of the leaders scheduled to speak at the upcoming "Path To Peace" conference, including Father Nicholas Gruner, appeared in the John Birch Society-produced 30-minute conspiracy video "The United Nations: A Look Into The Future", which promoted a United States withdrawal from the United Nations. Playing a starring role in the video was Ron Paul. Reports Tabachnick:

Scenes in the JBS film change to black and white when United Nations bullies in dark sunglasses come to snatch children from their homes and force them to go to public schools. Depictions of the United Nations' infiltration are interspersed with images invoking Nazi Germany.

Nor is it Paul's first brush with hate groups or hate speech. In 2008, during his first presidential bid, Congressman Ron Paul came under heavy criticism due to anti-Semitic and racist newletters published in his name in 1990s.




Display:
I think they should invote Pope Michael of Iowa to speak, he is rather close.

Unfortunately, there are nutcases all over.
Fortunately, they are not prevalent (mostly) on the mainstream media.

by rdrjames on Sun Sep 08, 2013 at 10:59:36 PM EST



WWW Talk To Action


Cognitive Dissonance & Dominionism Denial
There is new research on why people are averse to hearing or learning about the views of ideological opponents. Based on evaluation of five......
By Frederick Clarkson (1 comment)
Will the Air Force Do Anything To Rein In Its Dynamic Duo of Gay-Bashing, Misogynistic Bloggers?
"I always get nervous when I see female pastors/chaplains. Here is why everyone should as well: "First, women are not called to be pastors,......
By Chris Rodda (1 comment)
The Legacy of Big Oil
The media is ablaze with the upcoming publication of David Grann's book, Killers of the Flower Moon. The shocking non fiction account of the......
By wilkyjr (0 comments)
Gimme That Old Time Dominionism Denial
Over the years, I have written a great deal here and in other venues about the explicitly theocratic movement called dominionism -- which has......
By Frederick Clarkson (4 comments)
History Advisor to Members of Congress Completely Twists Jefferson's Words to Support Muslim Ban
Pseudo-historian David Barton, best known for his misquoting of our country's founders to promote the notion that America was founded as a Christian nation,......
By Chris Rodda (5 comments)
"Christian Fighter Pilot" Calls First Lesbian Air Force Academy Commandant a Liar
In a new post on his "Christian Fighter Pilot" blog titled "BGen Kristin Goodwin and the USAFA Honor Code," Air Force Lieutenant Colonel Jonathan......
By Chris Rodda (0 comments)
Catholic Right Leader Unapologetic about Call for 'Death to Liberal Professors' -- UPDATED
Today, Donald Trump appointed C-FAM Executive Vice President Lisa Correnti to the US Delegation To UN Commission On Status Of Women. (C-FAM is a......
By Frederick Clarkson (2 comments)
Controlling Information
     Yesterday I listened to Russ Limbaugh.  Rush advised listeners it would be best that they not listen to CNN,MSNBC, ABC, CBS and......
By wilkyjr (4 comments)
Is Bannon Fifth-Columning the Pope?
In December 2016 I wrote about how White House chief strategist Steve Bannon, who likes to flash his Catholic credentials when it comes to......
By Frank Cocozzelli (3 comments)
Ross Douthat's Hackery on the Seemingly Incongruous Alliance of Bannon & Burke
Conservative Catholic writer Ross Douthat has dissembled again. This time, in a February 15, 2017 New York Times op-ed titled The Trump Era's Catholic......
By Frank Cocozzelli (2 comments)
`So-Called Patriots' Attack The Rule Of Law
Every so often, right-wing commentator Pat Buchanan lurches out of the far-right fever swamp where he has resided for the past 50 years to......
By Rob Boston (1 comment)
Bad Faith from Focus on the Family
Here is one from the archives, Feb 12, 2011, that serves as a reminder of how deeply disingenuous people can be. Appeals to seek......
By Frederick Clarkson (6 comments)
The Legacy of George Wallace
"One need not accept any of those views to agree that they had appealed to real concerns of real people, not to mindless, unreasoning......
By wilkyjr (6 comments)
Betsy DeVos's Mudsill View of Public Education
My Talk to Action colleague Rachel Tabachnick has been doing yeoman's work in explaining Betsy DeVos's long-term strategy for decimating universal public education. If......
By Frank Cocozzelli (7 comments)
Prince and DeVos Families at Intersection of Radical Free Market Privatizers and Religious Right
This post from 2011 surfaces important information about President-Elect Trump's nominee for Secretary of Education, Betsy DeVos. -- FC Erik Prince, Brother of Betsy......
By Rachel Tabachnick (21 comments)

Respect for Others? or Political Correctness?
The term "political correctness" as used by Conservatives and Republicans has often puzzled me: what exactly do they mean by it? After reading Chip Berlin's piece here-- http://www.talk2action.org/story/2016/7/21/04356/9417 I thought about what he explained......
MTOLincoln (4 comments)
Fear
What I'm feeling now is fear.  I swear that it seems my nightmares are coming true with this new "president".  I'm also frustrated because so many people are not connecting all the dots! I've......
ArchaeoBob (4 comments)
"America - love it or LEAVE!"
I've been hearing that and similar sentiments fairly frequently in the last few days - far FAR more often than ever before.  Hearing about "consequences for burning the flag (actions) from Trump is chilling!......
ArchaeoBob (4 comments)
"Faked!" Meme
Keep your eyes and ears open for a possible move to try to discredit the people openly opposing Trump and the bigots, especially people who have experienced terrorism from the "Right"  (Christian Terrorism is......
ArchaeoBob (6 comments)
More aggressive proselytizing
My wife told me today of an experience she had this last week, where she was proselytized by a McDonald's employee while in the store. ......
ArchaeoBob (5 comments)
See if you recognize names on this list
This comes from the local newspaper, which was conservative before and took a hard right turn after it was sold. Hint: Sarah Palin's name is on it!  (It's also connected to Trump.) ......
ArchaeoBob (3 comments)
Unions: A Labor Day Discussion
This is a revision of an article which I posted on my personal board and also on Dailykos. I had an interesting discussion on a discussion board concerning Unions. I tried to piece it......
Xulon (4 comments)
Extremely obnoxious protesters at WitchsFest NYC: connected to NAR?
In July of this year, some extremely loud, obnoxious Christian-identified protesters showed up at WitchsFest, an annual Pagan street fair here in NYC.  Here's an account of the protest by Pagan writer Heather Greene......
Diane Vera (3 comments)
Capitalism and the Attack on the Imago Dei
I joined this site today, having been linked here by Crooksandliars' Blog Roundup. I thought I'd put up something I put up previously on my Wordpress blog and also at the DailyKos. As will......
Xulon (2 comments)
History of attitudes towards poverty and the churches.
Jesus is said to have stated that "The Poor will always be with you" and some Christians have used that to refuse to try to help the poor, because "they will always be with......
ArchaeoBob (13 comments)
Alternate economy medical treatment
Dogemperor wrote several times about the alternate economy structure that dominionists have built.  Well, it's actually made the news.  Pretty good article, although it doesn't get into how bad people could be (have been)......
ArchaeoBob (5 comments)
Evidence violence is more common than believed
Think I've been making things up about experiencing Christian Terrorism or exaggerating, or that it was an isolated incident?  I suggest you read this article (linked below in body), which is about our great......
ArchaeoBob (7 comments)
Central Florida Sheriff Preached Sermon in Uniform
If anyone has been following the craziness in Polk County Florida, they know that some really strange and troubling things have happened here.  We've had multiple separation of church and state lawsuits going at......
ArchaeoBob (2 comments)
Demon Mammon?
An anthropologist from outer space might be forgiven for concluding that the god of this world is Mammon. (Or, rather, The Market, as depicted by John McMurtry in his book The Cancer Stage of......
daerie (2 comments)
Anti-Sharia Fever in Texas: This is How It Starts
The mayor of a mid-size Texan city has emerged in recent months as the newest face of Islamophobia. Aligning herself with extremists hostile to Islam, Mayor Beth Van Duyne of Irving, Texas has helped......
JSanford (2 comments)

More Diaries...




All trademarks and copyrights on this page are owned by their respective companies. Comments, posts, stories, and all other content are owned by the authors. Everything else 2005 Talk to Action, LLC.