More aggressive proselytizing
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Mon Nov 14, 2016 at 10:53:36 PM EST
My wife told me today of an experience she had this last week, where she was proselytized by a McDonald's employee while in the store.
She said that she thinks that the Dominionists in this area have gotten more aggressive since the election.  The employee, a young man, was rather pushy from her description - right there in the store.

She then said that an older man came up and handed her a Christian tract right after that.

It bothers both of us.  We think that Trump winning may have made them more bold and willing to break laws and violate rules in trying to push their religion on others.  We're just waiting to see if this is more than a local phenomenon.  They've been very aggressive in the past - like I told my wife, complaining to management does little good down here... at most the people tone down their aggressive approach a bit.

It also makes me wonder if the state parks are going to have a lot more of what we experienced there the last time (or the time before that) when we were able to go there.  There was a group with a big boom box blasting out a guy's preaching and preaching-music.  You could hear it hundreds of feet away - very loud.  When we complained that it was ruining our experience of the park (used to be very peaceful), the rangers said that they could do little about it except ask them to turn it down - that it was a freedom of speech and freedom of religion issue.  As I remember, they DID ask them, and got complaints about "Persecuting Christians".

I'm going to ask a couple of people I know how the jackleg preachers have been since the election (on my campus) - the next time I go over there.  I wouldn't be surprised to learn that they got more disruptive and insulting.

I've been too busy with my quals to go into town much in the last month, so I don't see near as much as I used to.  I DID go vote, and there were two pickup trucks with signs and tables behind them "Republicans check in here first" and with Trump and other Republican signs just off the property where the polling place was.  I overheard a woman complaining to a man (who turned out to be a Trump official observer) that they'd walked past those people and they were getting rather aggressive and pushy and made them uncomfortable.  The "Official observer" told them something to the effect that those were really "Hillary operatives".  They didn't look like it (large, muscular, and very redneck looking) and they didn't act like anyone I met with the Democrats, who are VERY careful to be respectful of others and the law (and that was what we were taught as volunteers).

Like I told my wife, back when I belonged to those churches, we were taught that everything we did was to be used for "witnessing" - proselytizing.  If you got a job, you were to try to lead everyone you came in contact with to "Jesus" or at least "plant seeds" or "water seeds" (force your religion on others).  Oh, and we were to always "tell the Truth" - but it was always the Church's truth, not ours (and not the reality version of truth).  I know I REALLY insulted and offended some people back then - and I'm ashamed of both my behavior and words now.

It was a few years AFTER I walked that I heard that people were being advised to be more sneaky about proselytizing on the job.  Too many of their young people were loosing jobs or getting in trouble because of proselytizing.  (I did, early on - lost a not-so-nice job at what later became a superfund site, a job that church members had "helped" me to get.)  

Although I'm saying this based on a too-small sample size, I wonder if the thought is that with Trump in office, the rules had changed or would change?  I wonder if others have seen an increase in proselytizing?

by ArchaeoBob on Thu Nov 17, 2016 at 07:05:37 PM EST

Trump getting elected has tripled down on it if not worse. No ship to save us from it. I shudder to think how it will be in 2020. Even if the GOP does somehow get rid of him we have their Ace-In-The-Hole with the vp.

"I have a bad feeling about this." I really believe it is here now and it won't end well. No matter how the Republicans have control over every part of govt. Not a thing The Founders intended or wanted. Certainly not what I wanted. We had bad choices, but somehow the Electors decided that chaotic evil was a better choice than run-of-the-mill evil in Hillary Clinton.

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I rarely go out into the "general public" because of the attitudes I encounter.  Saturday I actually took some time and went and checked out a couple of yard sales.

The first, I nearly walked away from because of all of the proselytizing type language coming from the woman.  She REALLY was pushing her Christianity.  I had to bite my tongue to keep from telling her off - they had something I could use that I could also afford, so I didn't want to piss her off.

The second yard sale wasn't bad.  Very business-like and friendly but not pushy.

The third - not that much religion, but I got a huge dose of "Poor people brought it on themselves because they don't know how to budget or handle money!!!" (the same old Christian blame game and a direct descendant of old-school Calvinism).

That's my own experiences, on one of the rare days I'm not trying to get something accomplished at home (including working on school stuff).

The hate for minorities and the poor is palpable around here.  The news is... disheartening if not depressing.  Every day I read of something that is a win for the dominionists.  Yet it seems people are absolutely blind to what is going on around them!

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