Extremely obnoxious protesters at WitchsFest NYC: connected to NAR?
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Thu Aug 25, 2016 at 09:48:32 AM EST
In July of this year, some extremely loud, obnoxious Christian-identified protesters showed up at WitchsFest, an annual Pagan street fair here in NYC.  Here's an account of the protest by Pagan writer Heather Greene on a Pagan news site called The Wild Hunt.  This was the first year that such protesters showed up at Witchfest.  Apparently they also showed up last year at Pagan Pride, another Pagan festival held annually in late September.

According to Heather Greene:

The group of protesters, who numbered between 10 and 20 at any given time, arrived early and stayed all day. They set up on one corner of Astor Place, near the festival's teaching tents. The group held up signs and yelled at the growing festival crowd. According to RavenHawk, this was the same group of people who protested Pagan Pride in 2015.

Witch and author Christopher Penczak told The Wild Hunt that the protesters appeared to be "some evangelical variety" of Christian, but he could not identify any specific denomination or church affiliation.

"I have never encountered such a belligerent group," said Hannah, a member of the Temple of Witchcraft and a regular attendee at Pagan and other similar conventions. "One [protester] screamed in my face that I need to repent." She said that, in her experience, most convention protesters are typically more passive. "These guys were seriously full of aggression and hate."

When I first read this back in July, it occurred to me to wonder if this protest might be a sign of stepped-up NAR-style "spiritual warfare" activity here in NYC.  Such protests, here in NYC, are a new development.  As far as I am aware, such harassment of public Pagan events has never happened here before.

I decided to post about it here after this article by Frederick Clarkson (see also my comment here) made me realize that there apparently is, indeed, stepped up NAR activity here in NYC these days.

However, that fact still doesn't prove that this specific protest was NAR-connected.  Would anyone here happen to know what specific organization was behind these protests?  (Photos here and here.)

The lack of denominational affiliation is certainly suggestive but I'd need more to go on.

However, as another general forensic tool, look for any activity in and around NYC concerning "prayer walking" or "spiritual mapping". This has been going on all over the city, for several years at least.

Now, not all of the people doing this are fully within the NAR - and many may not even know about the existence of the movement.

Nonetheless "spiritual mapping" as a practice emerged from the heart of the nascent NAR (see this 2005 PhD dissertation on the emergence of Spiritual Mapping by Rene Holvast : http://dspace.library.uu.nl/bitstream/handle/1874/29340/holvast.p df?sequence=2 )

by Bruce Wilson on Thu Aug 25, 2016 at 10:40:51 AM EST

but I do know that down here, they've made life hell at times for UU kids (and non-Christians in general).  I was at a public function ("First Friday") where they attacked us at our table multiple times (including trying to "prove" to me that I was going to hell and aggressively approaching and grilling me within the space set up for the UU church).  We also had problems with them coming up to people who were at our table and starting hard-sell proselytizing of them as soon as they could.

Also, Native Americans have had problems with them.  I've heard of attempts (some pretty much successful, others not) to take over tribes and tribal governments (one group I'm thinking of has shifted from proven bloodlines as a part of being a member of the tribe - you're born into a tribe and you don't "join", to membership in the church).  They've invaded and disrupted ceremony, and physically threatened and attacked real American Indians.  I've experienced the attacks twice - once where I was threatened with violence from "Good Christians" (of the Dominionist stripe), and a second time where I was verbally attacked (in my face) by a Good Christian because I valued learning about our traditions and not "Jesus".

I just wish Dogemperor was around.  She knew more about situations out west than I do (mentioned several situations by name) - and I've been rather inactive in tribal life for the last several years (due to Christian and poverty problems).

Finally, I'd also point out that the local Dominionist "University" has a long history/reputation of developing new ways to proselytize and force their way into places where they're not wanted.  I'd been trying to get people who'd gone there - and spoke of some of the things they were taught, such as "How to disrupt another group that you don't like" - even to how to approach a table like we had set up at "First Friday", to write up reports on their training.  One person mentioned being taught even how to approach a table and block access to it - pointed out several young people and told us exactly what they would do - and they did.  It was exactly as that person had been trained when he/she was going there (I need to keep identities - even to sex, confidential to protect the people - as I wrote in the diary about evidence of violence, it's dangerous to resist those monsters.)

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By Frederick Clarkson (82 comments)
History Advisor to Members of Congress Completely Twists Jefferson's Words to Support Muslim Ban
Pseudo-historian David Barton, best known for his misquoting of our country's founders to promote the notion that America was founded as a Christian nation,......
By Chris Rodda (82 comments)
"Christian Fighter Pilot" Calls First Lesbian Air Force Academy Commandant a Liar
In a new post on his "Christian Fighter Pilot" blog titled "BGen Kristin Goodwin and the USAFA Honor Code," Air Force Lieutenant Colonel Jonathan......
By Chris Rodda (118 comments)
Catholic Right Leader Unapologetic about Call for 'Death to Liberal Professors' -- UPDATED
Today, Donald Trump appointed C-FAM Executive Vice President Lisa Correnti to the US Delegation To UN Commission On Status Of Women. (C-FAM is a......
By Frederick Clarkson (97 comments)
Controlling Information
     Yesterday I listened to Russ Limbaugh.  Rush advised listeners it would be best that they not listen to CNN,MSNBC, ABC, CBS and......
By wilkyjr (71 comments)
Is Bannon Fifth-Columning the Pope?
In December 2016 I wrote about how White House chief strategist Steve Bannon, who likes to flash his Catholic credentials when it comes to......
By Frank Cocozzelli (220 comments)
Ross Douthat's Hackery on the Seemingly Incongruous Alliance of Bannon & Burke
Conservative Catholic writer Ross Douthat has dissembled again. This time, in a February 15, 2017 New York Times op-ed titled The Trump Era's Catholic......
By Frank Cocozzelli (53 comments)
`So-Called Patriots' Attack The Rule Of Law
Every so often, right-wing commentator Pat Buchanan lurches out of the far-right fever swamp where he has resided for the past 50 years to......
By Rob Boston (129 comments)
Bad Faith from Focus on the Family
Here is one from the archives, Feb 12, 2011, that serves as a reminder of how deeply disingenuous people can be. Appeals to seek......
By Frederick Clarkson (168 comments)
The Legacy of George Wallace
"One need not accept any of those views to agree that they had appealed to real concerns of real people, not to mindless, unreasoning......
By wilkyjr (49 comments)
Betsy DeVos's Mudsill View of Public Education
My Talk to Action colleague Rachel Tabachnick has been doing yeoman's work in explaining Betsy DeVos's long-term strategy for decimating universal public education. If......
By Frank Cocozzelli (47 comments)
Prince and DeVos Families at Intersection of Radical Free Market Privatizers and Religious Right
This post from 2011 surfaces important information about President-Elect Trump's nominee for Secretary of Education, Betsy DeVos. -- FC Erik Prince, Brother of Betsy......
By Rachel Tabachnick (191 comments)

Respect for Others? or Political Correctness?
The term "political correctness" as used by Conservatives and Republicans has often puzzled me: what exactly do they mean by it? After reading Chip Berlin's piece here-- http://www.talk2action.org/story/2016/7/21/04356/9417 I thought about what he explained......
MTOLincoln (208 comments)
What I'm feeling now is fear.  I swear that it seems my nightmares are coming true with this new "president".  I'm also frustrated because so many people are not connecting all the dots! I've......
ArchaeoBob (81 comments)
"America - love it or LEAVE!"
I've been hearing that and similar sentiments fairly frequently in the last few days - far FAR more often than ever before.  Hearing about "consequences for burning the flag (actions) from Trump is chilling!......
ArchaeoBob (142 comments)
"Faked!" Meme
Keep your eyes and ears open for a possible move to try to discredit the people openly opposing Trump and the bigots, especially people who have experienced terrorism from the "Right"  (Christian Terrorism is......
ArchaeoBob (130 comments)
More aggressive proselytizing
My wife told me today of an experience she had this last week, where she was proselytized by a McDonald's employee while in the store. ......
ArchaeoBob (135 comments)
See if you recognize names on this list
This comes from the local newspaper, which was conservative before and took a hard right turn after it was sold. Hint: Sarah Palin's name is on it!  (It's also connected to Trump.) ......
ArchaeoBob (124 comments)
Unions: A Labor Day Discussion
This is a revision of an article which I posted on my personal board and also on Dailykos. I had an interesting discussion on a discussion board concerning Unions. I tried to piece it......
Xulon (135 comments)
Extremely obnoxious protesters at WitchsFest NYC: connected to NAR?
In July of this year, some extremely loud, obnoxious Christian-identified protesters showed up at WitchsFest, an annual Pagan street fair here in NYC.  Here's an account of the protest by Pagan writer Heather Greene......
Diane Vera (112 comments)
Capitalism and the Attack on the Imago Dei
I joined this site today, having been linked here by Crooksandliars' Blog Roundup. I thought I'd put up something I put up previously on my Wordpress blog and also at the DailyKos. As will......
Xulon (155 comments)
History of attitudes towards poverty and the churches.
Jesus is said to have stated that "The Poor will always be with you" and some Christians have used that to refuse to try to help the poor, because "they will always be with......
ArchaeoBob (129 comments)
Alternate economy medical treatment
Dogemperor wrote several times about the alternate economy structure that dominionists have built.  Well, it's actually made the news.  Pretty good article, although it doesn't get into how bad people could be (have been)......
ArchaeoBob (69 comments)
Evidence violence is more common than believed
Think I've been making things up about experiencing Christian Terrorism or exaggerating, or that it was an isolated incident?  I suggest you read this article (linked below in body), which is about our great......
ArchaeoBob (165 comments)
Central Florida Sheriff Preached Sermon in Uniform
If anyone has been following the craziness in Polk County Florida, they know that some really strange and troubling things have happened here.  We've had multiple separation of church and state lawsuits going at......
ArchaeoBob (72 comments)
Demon Mammon?
An anthropologist from outer space might be forgiven for concluding that the god of this world is Mammon. (Or, rather, The Market, as depicted by John McMurtry in his book The Cancer Stage of......
daerie (95 comments)
Anti-Sharia Fever in Texas: This is How It Starts
The mayor of a mid-size Texan city has emerged in recent months as the newest face of Islamophobia. Aligning herself with extremists hostile to Islam, Mayor Beth Van Duyne of Irving, Texas has helped......
JSanford (97 comments)

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