God and Caesar In America
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Tue Nov 29, 2005 at 01:35:26 PM EST
The revelation that a senior White House official "cleared" the since-failed nomination of Harriet Meyers to the Supreme Court with Focus on the Family founder James Dobson reminded me of the huge controversy caused by John Kennedy's campaign for president in 1960.  Then it was the religious conservatives who were up in arms about the separation of church and state and about preventing "the Pope from taking over the White House."
Can you imagine their reaction if, in 1961 when President Kennedy nominated Byron White to the Supreme Court, Ted Sorenson had placed a call to the Pope to seek his approval of the White nomination?
Reflections such as this in the context of today's political rhetoric of "faith" and "values", and the high-jacking of the Republican party by the religious right, together with my own evangelical background and divinity school studies of theology, caused me to write God and Caesar in America: And Essay on Religion and Politics.
[The following is an excerpt from God and Caesar in America: An Essay on Religion and Politics, published by Fulcrum Publishing, available November 1, 2005, in your local bookstore or at www.fulcrumbooks.com.]

The full agenda of religious right "values"--laissez-faire economics, antigovernment biases, neo-conservative foreign policies, and rightist orthodoxy--requires a judiciary compliant with it. It does no good to convert a Jeffersonian public school system into private parochial schools, to make churches the instruments of the state by transferring public funds from social programs to them, to pass laws restricting reproductive rights, to expand law enforcement's intrusive reach in the name of security, or to torture or indefinitely detain terror suspects if a judge or court from the pre-revivalist past overturns those actions on constitutional grounds. The full religious revolution cannot be realized without a federal judiciary, up to and including at least five members of the Supreme Court, that shares those ideals and goals.
    The New American Theocracy requires judges who will go along and who will continue going along for the remainder of their lives. The ultimate goal is a Supreme Court philosophically attuned to the principles and purposes of those seeking a state that incorporates and promotes their religious beliefs. Only then will the presidential decrees and compliant congressional actions sought by the right be safe from assault by a judiciary dedicated to the proposition that the law is established within the framework of the United States Constitution, not the Bible.
    The new theocrats do not know and do not seem to want to know that judges take an oath of office requiring them to uphold the Constitution. The fact that they may (or may not) place their hand upon a Bible and swear, "so help me, God" in taking that oath does not in any way mean that they are to place their, or anyone else's, theological doctrines above those principles spelled out in the Constitution and laws of the United States.
    But does not democracy require that the majority prevail, that the will of the majority is to determine the direction of the nation? And did not the majority of Americans elect a president and a Congress committed to the agenda of those dedicated to a theocratic democracy? It is too much to assume that a majority of those who voted for George W. Bush for president or for any individual senator or house member were of the same mind on the very wide variety of religious and social issues promoted by the religious right.
It is clear that the religious right has established a dominant position within one political party, a position that permits it to impose its veto on candidates for office, proposed legislation, and judicial appointments. But this position does not make it a majority even in one political party, let alone in the nation. A somewhat similar position was occupied by the organized labor movement in the Democratic Party up until recently. But that did not mean that a majority of Democrats were members of that movement or even that they agreed with the labor movement on all issues.
    It is one thing to be one member of a coalition that makes up one political party and it is quite another to assume a minority position in one party that requires that party, all institutions of government, and the nation at large to accept the religious doctrines of that minority. The religious right in America, empowered by compliant elected officials, some of whom are intimidated by that element, is seeking a dictatorship of the minority. There are more than a few authoritarian and totalitarian examples in the world where this has taken place, but not in a constitutional democracy such as the United States.
    One can only wonder at the response of a Jefferson or a Madison to such an effort.

                                        Gary Hart
                                        November 29, 2005




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This isn't something that can be, I suspect, legislated against. The problem is that elaborate workarounds can always be contrived such that the quiet or secret clearing, by a theocratic elite, of potential judicial nominations and also political candidates can never be stopped.

The law is a cumbersome beast - necessary but crude and slow to respond as compared to the rate at which human tactical approaches can be adapted and modified.

The ultimate safeguard, one in danger of crumbling now, is this : a widespread cultural belief that the separation principle is a valid one.

On those grounds - and on others too -  the theocratic movement is winning, and it is winning by virtue of brute force advertising and grassroots organizing tactics, by ceaseless repetition, by hollow and obtuse intellectual sophistry....

Once majority perceptions have been shifted sufficiently, to the belief that the government of the United States was founded as a Christian rather than a secular entity, the game is lost.

But that grim end is not yet here - and though I'm tempted to flourish - in grand rhetorical style - about the need for magical solutions, great imagined battles to stem this tide - Gettysburgs, Stalingrads, or a Thermoplaes..... but, no :

Turn to Face The Feared, the Strange :

At the cultural level this struggle can be reduced, at least in part, to efforts that are mundane, practical, even tasteless  - to cheap "evolution comics" to counter Jack Chick tracts, to media saturation techniques - in television, radio, and advertising - to potboiler novels that sell on a level to rival the Lahaye franchise......the Christian right has flooded mass culture with product bearing theocratic overtones, undertones, memes, shadings.....  and, where is the left's response - not academic responses but ones with maximum lowbrow appeal ?

And - yes - the struggle is for a re-engagement of the religious traditions of the left. Did the religious right enter the fray ? Of course. Was that fair ? Well yes and no depending on the specific methods in question. But the religious left certainly also, to considerable degree, ceded the territory. Where is its nobler animating ideals to impart purpose and conviction, spirited evangelical zeal for the promotion of global human rights, of human liberties celebrated and yet tempered by communal repsonsibility ? Or the acceptance of non Christian and even - dare I say it - ostentatiously atheistic or simply agnostic beliefs ?

Well, those ideals are around and - even - vibrant among parts of  the religious left, but we need more of that, and quick.  

I think, for my part, I'll sense the game is truly afoot when a certain little Unitarian Church I know, in sleepy New England, awakes to realize it is beset, under atttack from many quarters, holds off its weakness for bemoaning and then simply forgetting the latest scary thing or presidential outrage, and rolls up its sleeves to hold bake sales, raffles, and dances - dances, yes, because theocracy in its purest forms tends to loath dance.

The game will truly be afoot when the churches, schools, teachers associations, dwindling unions, the environmentalists and Greens, the members of AARP, the trial lawyers and librarians, the MD's and medical profession, the scientific community....

When all of these interest groups, institutions, factions - all such groupings which have shared social, political, or financial cohesion begin to notice the theocratic movement, then turn about to look long and hard, to assess and not to turn away in despair or retire to television and the many distractions of life......

When these atomized forces stare this thing they've long dreaded in the eye to suss it up as a worthy opponent, in study of its nature, its musculature, it tactics and strategies and - finding that alone, as a solitary combatant, sufficient strength is acking, look to others engaged in that very same strategic and tactical appraisal...

When those forces turn towards each other - to find common ground, build allegiance, craft strategies.......

Then, the game will be afoot.  I believe I'll see the day - and I believe in the power of that belief : faith, if you will.

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It was an important moment, as you observe, when John Kennedy went before a group of protestant ministers to declare that he was a strong supporter of separation of church and state, and that even as a faithful Catholic, he would not, as president, be taking orders from the Vatican.

When we elect people to public office, they certainly bring their faith with them, and no one is asking them not to. But we do ask people to swear an oath to uphold the Constitution.  As Susan Jacoby details in her essay, the only thing in the constitution, prior to the First Amendment, that deals with the question of religion is Article 6 -- which states that there shall be no religious test for public office. This meant, of course, that we were establishing religious equality in the United States. Our religious views, would be irrelevant to our status as citizens, and we would be free to believe as we will without interference from the government, or any religious institution.

Jeffersonson once said, if I recall the quote correctly, regarding churches, that 'we should be as free go go out as we are to go in.'

You are right that it is an afront to our constitution that the president and his advisors are resorting to a religious test for nominees to the Supreme Court, and other offices.

I hope your book will receive a wide readership and help jump-start the kind of broad public discussion we need to have on these important issues.

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I think it's important to highlight Republican malfeasance and to focus on pieces of anti-Christian legislation that they have passed (ie the bankruptcy bill). Sooner or later I would guess that the fundamentalists would realize that the GOP is just using them.

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Hey this is grand.  Surely others can add!

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Probably not. But, he does bring home the ideological bacon - wrapped, to be sure, in the liberal swaddling of pork fat now surrounding American "conservatism"....

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But from what I've seen in my travels, the religious right has gone from being absolutely enamored with Bush, to acknowledging some of his faults, but more or less still supporting him strongly, for lack of an alternative plan. Many have had their faith in him shaken by his court appointments, his spending, his corruption, etc...  

It's too late to focus on George though. Even if they began to universally revile him tomorrow, it wouldn't matter much. Short of impeachment proceedings, we are stuck with the chimp until 2009.

I've tried to shift my focus onto the Republicans in general. We have to connect this malfeasance in government to the Republican Party as a whole, not just George Bush, because he'll be replaced soon enough.

I try not to mention Bush without using the word "Republican" in the same sentence, and I frequently don't mention him at all anymore (since the election), for example "Republican regime" instead of "Bush regime".

Regarding your mention of trade-offs, I would like to plant in the minds of fundamentalists, the idea that the Republican Party is profoundly amoral, and that their goals are at cross purposes with the goals of Christians. The ways we use language are a part of that strategy.

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But I think the distinction you make between an allegedly mercenary and libertine GOP ( forgive me if I mischaracterize ) and the GOP's religious and theocratic right voting base can be overstated.

First, once in power all politicians tend to fall prey to excess, and although the current crop filling the ranks of the GOP is astonishingly and perhaps historically excessive that does not mean that they came to power bereft of beliefs - and even severe, extreme beliefs. There are normal human demons, or foibles, which the heady fumes wafting off the Potomac and seeping from underneath the doors of sealed rooms of power very often set free. This is a spectacular and yet mundane thing, like the stotting of antelopes or the migration of shuffling penguins, and only a very few are immune unless thoroughly innoculated in advance - and sometimes not even then.

But, is to act in discord with one's stated beliefs to then lack belief ?

That is a question impossible to answer, but I am quite convinced that the many expressions of deep religious belief - and what I might call zealotry - which issue from the mouths of the captains of the GOP are more often than not genuine though perhaps overtated, but exaggeration is a stock tool of politics.

Could the relationship between the GOP leadership and its religious voter base be a bit more complex than the "con man" / "mark" model so often suggested ? I think the "manipulation" model may obscure more than it sheds light on.

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But, is to act in discord with one's stated beliefs to then lack belief ?

Jesus would probably say yes, his words to the hypocrites were pretty unambiguous.

I bring attention to this, because while the conman/mark model certainly does have it's limitations, likewise it accurately describes at least some people on the religious right. If we can deflect even single digit percentage of these folks, speaking their own language, we can start to seriously affect certain elections.

Nothing irritates or angers those folks as much as someone else stealing their podium... so let's do it!

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To acknowledge that !

I have a bone or two to pick with the "mark" model, but you are absolutely correct, and this brings up the "binary fallacy" :

To see only the "mark model" misses a great deal that's of strategic substance, while to deny the "mark model" altogether surrounders the powerful rhetorical attacks on the sort of spectacular and grotesque hypocrisy we're currently awash in.

So - indeed - point well taken.

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Betsy DeVos's Mudsill View of Public Education
My Talk to Action colleague Rachel Tabachnick has been doing yeoman's work in explaining Betsy DeVos's long-term strategy for decimating universal public education. If......
By Frank Cocozzelli (80 comments)
Prince and DeVos Families at Intersection of Radical Free Market Privatizers and Religious Right
This post from 2011 surfaces important information about President-Elect Trump's nominee for Secretary of Education, Betsy DeVos. -- FC Erik Prince, Brother of Betsy......
By Rachel Tabachnick (218 comments)

Respect for Others? or Political Correctness?
The term "political correctness" as used by Conservatives and Republicans has often puzzled me: what exactly do they mean by it? After reading Chip Berlin's piece here-- http://www.talk2action.org/story/2016/7/21/04356/9417 I thought about what he explained......
MTOLincoln (253 comments)
Fear
What I'm feeling now is fear.  I swear that it seems my nightmares are coming true with this new "president".  I'm also frustrated because so many people are not connecting all the dots! I've......
ArchaeoBob (107 comments)
"America - love it or LEAVE!"
I've been hearing that and similar sentiments fairly frequently in the last few days - far FAR more often than ever before.  Hearing about "consequences for burning the flag (actions) from Trump is chilling!......
ArchaeoBob (211 comments)
"Faked!" Meme
Keep your eyes and ears open for a possible move to try to discredit the people openly opposing Trump and the bigots, especially people who have experienced terrorism from the "Right"  (Christian Terrorism is......
ArchaeoBob (165 comments)
More aggressive proselytizing
My wife told me today of an experience she had this last week, where she was proselytized by a McDonald's employee while in the store. ......
ArchaeoBob (163 comments)
See if you recognize names on this list
This comes from the local newspaper, which was conservative before and took a hard right turn after it was sold. Hint: Sarah Palin's name is on it!  (It's also connected to Trump.) ......
ArchaeoBob (169 comments)
Unions: A Labor Day Discussion
This is a revision of an article which I posted on my personal board and also on Dailykos. I had an interesting discussion on a discussion board concerning Unions. I tried to piece it......
Xulon (156 comments)
Extremely obnoxious protesters at WitchsFest NYC: connected to NAR?
In July of this year, some extremely loud, obnoxious Christian-identified protesters showed up at WitchsFest, an annual Pagan street fair here in NYC.  Here's an account of the protest by Pagan writer Heather Greene......
Diane Vera (130 comments)
Capitalism and the Attack on the Imago Dei
I joined this site today, having been linked here by Crooksandliars' Blog Roundup. I thought I'd put up something I put up previously on my Wordpress blog and also at the DailyKos. As will......
Xulon (329 comments)
History of attitudes towards poverty and the churches.
Jesus is said to have stated that "The Poor will always be with you" and some Christians have used that to refuse to try to help the poor, because "they will always be with......
ArchaeoBob (148 comments)
Alternate economy medical treatment
Dogemperor wrote several times about the alternate economy structure that dominionists have built.  Well, it's actually made the news.  Pretty good article, although it doesn't get into how bad people could be (have been)......
ArchaeoBob (90 comments)
Evidence violence is more common than believed
Think I've been making things up about experiencing Christian Terrorism or exaggerating, or that it was an isolated incident?  I suggest you read this article (linked below in body), which is about our great......
ArchaeoBob (214 comments)

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