Gingrich v The Separation of Church and State
mick arran printable version print page     Bookmark and Share
Sun Dec 17, 2006 at 10:53:55 AM EST
Newt Gingrich is launching a new and ambitious committee aimed at re-making American society in the neoconservative image. But just below the surface lurks an assault on the doctrine of separation of church and state that has been dear to his heart for decades.
When last we saw the diminutive Georgian, mastermind of the Contract with America and the '94 Republican takeover, he was lurching from Washington with his tail between his legs and charges of corruption, influence-peddling, and various other "unethical behaviors" nipping at his heels. He's been quiet the last few years, giving the rumpus a chance to die down, but according to a story in today's NY Times, he's back and he has big plans.
Mr. Gingrich's...agenda includes a new political action committee to try to identify changes America must make to survive. It is an effort that he said would be 50 times as ambitious as the political action committee Gopac, which in the 1980s and '90s he turned into a training ground for hundreds of Republican politicians and a personal fund-raising fief. It will be, in Mr. Gingrich's telling, the 1994 Contract With America, which swept Republicans into power on Capitol Hill and him into the speaker's chair, on an extra-large scale.

The new committee, called American Solutions for Winning the Future, will be organized as a so-called 527 group, he said. Those committees, named for a section of the tax code, can raise and spend unlimited money with minimal disclosure.

Mr. Gingrich said he would try to raise tens of millions of dollars through the committee to find bipartisan solutions to the nation's problems. Any candidate of any party who wants to share in the effort will be welcome, he said.

The committee will also promote Mr. Gingrich's latest manifesto, a 10-point Contract With America for the 21st century, which includes Social Security privatization, electoral reform, radical streamlining of government, and "patriotic education" for schoolchildren and immigrants. The document also includes a call to "recenter America on the creator from whom all our liberties come" and to appoint judges who understand "the centrality of God in American history." (emphasis added)

The NYT article, in standard MSM fashion, wastes a lot of time pretending that this is some kind of presidential bid and handicapping it on that basis, but Gingrich - who knew what the reporter (John Broder) wanted to hear - gave him a lot of help.
Mr. Gingrich acknowledged that he was probably better at formulating ideas than at carrying them out, more of a revolutionary agitator than an elected executive. He said that unexpected events swept him into the speaker's office -- though he had spent years planning to get there -- and that the same could happen with the Oval Office.

"It all depends on whether the movement I'm building gets big enough and how large the vacuum of leadership is," he said.

Uh-huh. Let's dispense with this bit of disinformation as quickly as possible.
Merle Black, a professor of government at Emory University and an authority on Southern politics, said Mr. Gingrich was dreaming. His appeal is limited to a relatively narrow slice of right-wing voters, Professor Black said, with virtually no support from independents and Democrats.

"He couldn't get elected to statewide office in Georgia," Professor Black said, citing a recent poll of Georgia Republicans that placed Mr. Gingrich a distant third in presidential preference in his home state, behind Mr. Giuliani and Mr. McCain. "I cannot imagine him winning a presidential race in the United States."

Amen. And let's add to that the fact that the above laundry list of conservative shibboleths is the same one the right has been flogging for 25 years and the same one that's been consistently rejected by American voters with 2 exceptions: "patriotic education" (a terrifying phrase coming from someone like Gingrich whose defense of the genocide practiced against Native Americans in the 19th century is legendary) and the election or appointment of theocratic judges. Both are worrying but the former is an annoyance; the latter is bloody dangerous.

Everything Gingrich says and believes may be demonstrably wrong but that doesn't mean he's stupid. He's a shrewd politician with a dead-on instinct for what rich right-wingers will donate scads of money to do and for what middle-class right-wingers and moderates will support. And while the neoconservatives of the Bush Administration may have been embarrassed in November, they're still in control of the Republican party and showing no sign whatever that they're willing to give that up.

In a T2A diary by Joan Bokaer titled "The Fight for the Soul of the GOP Is On!", Ms Bokaer points out that the disenchantment of the religious right with the way neocons in the Bush Admin shuffled their concerns onto a back burner in order to concentrate on an attempt to control Middle east oil caused mucho defections.

And now -- perhaps the final? -- battle for the soul of the GOP is on. Karl Rove and associates still believe they have a winning formula - keep the Christian Conservative base of the GOP happy. Rove thinks the last election was a fluke and he is sticking to his strategy. But many traditional Republicans, independents, libertarians, mainstream Christians, and, yes, evangelicals left the party. Some notables such as Jim Webb (newly elected Senator from VA) was a Republican and the former Secretary of the Navy under Ronald Reagan. He unseated a darling of the religious right, Senator George Allen (R-VA).
What Gingrich has hit on is a perfect set of targets with wide potential appeal to the the GOP's base, wide enough, perhaps, to bring the defectors back. It's hard to argue against the concept of "patriotic education" being injected into our curricula when it will most likely be sold as nothing more than an extra emphasis on American history, and easy to argue that such an effort is necessary, desirable, and even important.

Theocratic judges are a bit dicier but the fundamentalists want them badly and lots of evangelicals wouldn't mind having them. The idea of a movement to bring their version of Christ into US law is more than attractive, it's a motivator. It gets their juices (and their contributions) flowing, maybe not as much as abortion but a lot more than evolution. Packaged inside a glittery platform of high-minded platitudes and grandiose visions, there's every reason to believe that the simple-minded scions of the right, who dearly love slogans behind which flags can fly and choirs of angels can sing, might very well flock back to the neoconservative banner to do battle, united once more, with the evil, godless liberals.

In a comment on Ms Bokaer's diary, I took a particularly Pollyanna-ish view that the fresh split between those in the religious right who remained avidly political and those who were beginning to think that maybe politics wasn't the way to get what they wanted after all might very well be the spark to the ultimate disintegration of the religious right by causing it to break down into dozens of splinter groups more intent on fighting each other than us.

Yes, there will be a fight for control of the GOP but it isn't even clear that the religious right will be anything other than bystanders, possibly of their own choice. A split has developed in the last year or two between those who believe, like Brownback, that the dominionist camp should be in complete control of the Pubs and ought to work toward using their leverage and true control at the local level to hijack the Federal govt, and those who are now questioning whether they ever should have gotten involved in the political process to begin with.

The outcome of that split is unclear as is the question of whether or not what's left of the "new" GOP after Bush's meltdown even wants the religious right on their side - polls have been showing for years that a majority of the country isn't interested in overturning Roe v Wade or passing a Constitutional amendment "protecting marriage" or forcing ID into science classrooms, and it is dawning on the PTB that in the long run the fundies may be more of a drag than a help.

Gingrich's new effort could very well heal that split before it has a chance to do its work, and in the process face us with a whole new well-financed war on the Constitution and the SOCAS doctrine.

That can't be good for anybody.




Display:

In a recent address -- ironically at a dinner celebrating free speech -- Newt Gingrich warned that the threat of terrorism necessitates curbs on free speech and a "level of supervision" by the gov't never before dreamed of.   I've never heard any proposal by Bush or Cheney half so frightening. Here's Keith Olbermann's response:

http://www.alternet.org/blogs/video/45004/



by Gnosys on Mon Dec 18, 2006 at 12:44:02 AM EST
was among the best of many really good points he has made.

Being that the Forum was about the celebration of free speech and the state the one with the motto "live free or die", Newt Gingrich was very aptly described as "an arsonist  giving the keynote speech at a Firefighter's convention" extolling the virtues of his avocation.

That description should follow Newt everywhere he goes in his quest.

by FreeDem on Mon Jan 29, 2007 at 11:34:02 AM EST
[ Parent ]




WWW Talk To Action


Some Things Don't Change
This is a reprise of a piece I originally posted on May 16, 2007,titled: When Common Ground Means Capitulation -- to Falwell. It was......
By Frederick Clarkson (10 comments)
Adopting Bias: New Va. Rules Seek To Safeguard 'Faith-Based' Bigotry
Legislators and media pundits in Washington, D.C., continue to obsess over the birth control mandate in the new health care law and whether church-related......
By Rob Boston (4 comments)
GOP Candidates Embrace a Major Religious Right Narrative
Rick Santorum and Mitt Romney's demagogic claims that President Obama is engaged in a "war against religion" are as unsurprising as they are disturbing.......
By Frederick Clarkson (5 comments)
NAR Apostle Harold Caballeros Heads Guatemala Foreign Ministry
In January 2012, with the inauguration of former military general Otto Pérez Molina as Guatemala's president, NAR apostle Harold Caballeros took charge of Guatemala's......
By Bruce Wilson (2 comments)
As Eddie Long Controversy Grows, Video Emerges of 'Rabbi' Messer Wrapping Paula White in Torah
A Christian Post article dated February 5 is one of many reports of denials by televangelist Paula White and her attorney of any ties......
By Rachel Tabachnick (10 comments)
Garlow Introduced Gingrich, Called for Pastors Revolt Against IRS Rules at NAR Church in Nevada
On Friday night Newt Gingrich spoke at the "Prayer for America" event at the International Church of Las Vegas (ICLV) led by Apostle Paul......
By Rachel Tabachnick (3 comments)
A Must Read Book: "The Good News Club"
For anyone who wants to read a book that really goes inside the movement to indoctrinate children through our public schools, I highly recommend......
By Chris Rodda (3 comments)
More On Yale's Templeton-Funded "Spiritual Capital Initiative"
Should Chick-Fil-A be known for its extensive ties to, and funding of, some of the most aggressively anti-gay groups in America, as well as......
By Bruce Wilson (4 comments)
Gettting Well Versed
Michelle Boorstein at The Washington Post's "Under God" blog reports that Faithful America's petition calling for Kansas House Speaker Michael O'Neal to resign now......
By Frederick Clarkson (3 comments)
Alabama State Senator: Pay Increases for Teachers are Against 'Biblical Principle'
This is a new twist on "biblical economics" that I've not heard before.  According to Alabama State Sen. Shadrack McGill, a 62% pay increase......
By Rachel Tabachnick (5 comments)
Wagner Recognized by Delaware House for Commissioning Apostles (Copy of Tribute Included)
This morning I contacted the offices of Rep. Daniel B. Short and Chief Clerk of the House Richard Puffer and confirmed that C. Peter......
By Rachel Tabachnick (7 comments)
Trial Date Set for Bishop Finn
The trial date for Bishop Robert W. Finn,of the Diocese of Kansas City-St. Joseph, Missouri will be September 24, 2012.  Finn and the diocese......
By Frank Cocozzelli (3 comments)
The Culture of Demonization and Imprecatory Prayer
We have written a great deal here at Talk to Action about the Religious Right culture of conspiracy theory, labeling and demonization as animating......
By Frederick Clarkson (3 comments)
To Bigotry No Sanction, to Persecution No Assistance
As the finale of our extended celebration of Religious Freedom Day, we are honored to welcome George Washington as a guest front pager.  ......
By George Washington (0 comments)
George Barna and the New Apostolic Reformation
Given the secretive nature of the movement, documenting the involvement of public figures in C. Peter Wagner's New Apostolic Reformation can be a time-consuming......
By Bruce Wilson (2 comments)

Harold Caballeros, October 5, 2006, #1
On October 5, 2006, Harold Cabballeros, founder and senior pastor of El Shaddai Church in Guatemala City, spoke at the "Spirit in the World: The Dynamics of Pentecostal Growth and Experience" symposium sponsored by......
Bruce Wilson (0 comments)
Truth Wins Out Reports on Exodus International's Attempt at Rebranding
An extensive report has been posted at Truth Wins Out (TWO) on the rebranding of Exodus International, the discredited and financially strapped pray-away-the-gay organization. The report is titled "The Exodus SmokeScreen" and subtitled, "Exodus......
Rachel Tabachnick (0 comments)
Breast cancer awareness T-shirt prompts dispute at skating rink
crossposted from The Clarion Ledger) http://www.clarionledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2012202040 349 ""I am offended as a mother; as the daughter of a cancer patient; as a Christian woman; as a fundraiser and donor of time and money to......
COinMS (0 comments)
Delaware state house Dems distance themselves from Wagner tribute
The Democrats in the Delaware state House of Representatives are in full damage control mode over a tribute given back in January to C. Peter Wagner, a prominent leader of the New Apostolic......
Christian Dem in NC (1 comment)
Is Peter Wagner lying about commendation from state of Delaware?
Those of us who have watched the New Apostolic Reformation have come to expect bizarre claims.  Well, today  C. Peter Wagner made one of the most bizarre claims yet.  He sent out an......
Christian Dem in NC (1 comment)
New dominionist effort to target Hollywood with prayer
In yet more proof that the New Apostolic Reformation is trying to make itself heard in a big way this year, late yesterday several leaders of that movement got together to announce a......
Christian Dem in NC (0 comments)
Santorum Accuses Colleges of Anti-Religious "Indoctrination" But Gingrich Said it First
CBS and other media outlets have pounced on a Rick Santorum claim, that America's colleges and universities are hotbeds of anti-religious "indoctrination", but Newt Gingrich has been saying that for years. As Santorum declared......
Bruce Wilson (2 comments)
Leader of NC gay marriage ban effort, in his own words
cross-posted at dKos One of the leaders of the effort to write a gay marriage ban into North Carolina's constitution is Patrick Wooden, the pastor of Upper Room Church of God in Christ in......
Christian Dem in NC (2 comments)
AFA endorses AIDS denialism
If Public Policy Polling's early numbers are accurate (and there's little reason to doubt they are) Newt Gingrich will likely take the lead in national polling this week.  In light of this, there's......
Christian Dem in NC (1 comment)
Family Research Council chaplain openly calls for non-Christians to be banned from public office
Anyone who's studied the religious right can't help but notice a pattern to how they've operated over the last three decades.  They get a little bit of power, only to overreach and get smacked......
Christian Dem in NC (4 comments)
Cindy Jacobs prophecies divine intervention unless we elect Repubs
Late last week, New Apostolic Reformation "prophetess" Cindy Jacobs announced the yearly "Word of the Lord" from the Apostolic Council of Prophetic Elders.  (h/t to PFAW's Right Wing Watch). This "Word" makes for......
Christian Dem in NC (3 comments)
Robert Jeffress: First Amendment protections invite wrath of God
We already knew that the religious right would like nothing better than to sweep away the First Amendment.  Well, one of its more prominent leaders just came out and said it in terms as......
Christian Dem in NC (3 comments)
Cindy Jacobs announces 2012 prayer initiative--and declares war on separation of church and state
Late last night, Cindy Jacobs announced the formation of a major prayer drive with the goal of influencing the election.  The campaign, called "FastForward," is sponsored by her newly formed United States Reformation Prayer......
Christian Dem in NC (2 comments)
Personhood returns
Having soundly been defeated at the ballot box, the Personhood initiative in Mississippi has been resurrected via the new governor of Mississippi, Phil Bryant and his allies in the state government. For the first......
COinMS (0 comments)
Exposing The Dark Side Of Tupelo MS
It’s really ironic that the so-called Christian Religious Right (ie., AFA) are seemingly dedicated to the unnecessary bashing of Paganism when Pagans made such a well-documented historical contribution toward the rise of Christianity. For......
AlBratt (0 comments)

More Diaries...




All trademarks and copyrights on this page are owned by their respective companies. Comments, posts, stories, and all other content are owned by the authors. Everything else © 2005 Talk to Action, LLC. Powered by Scoop