http://www.rickross.com/groups/moonie.html

And as for the term "Moonie," it's a term they themselves embrace. Don't believe me? Take a look at tparents.org, an official Unification site.

You apparently don't know much about Moon's political ambitions, either. Sun Myung Moon's goal is to create a global theocracy with himself as its king and sole ruler, starting with the United States. His aim is to abolish Democracy as being too individualistic. His aim is to destroy labor unions and execute gays as the purported will of god, and on and on. I'm sure you are aware of his deep connections with the power centers of the Republican and Religious right wing, which is the vehicle he chose to help bring this all about.

The fact that he enjoys an interesting relationship with the paranoiac and nuclear-capable North Korean regime (a US-designated state sponsor of terrorism), the fact that he owns and operates an arms manufacturer, the fact that he attempted to purchase Russian nuclear submarine technology for North Korea via Japan, the fact that he and his former lieutenant Bo Hi Pak were named in a front-page June 5 1977 article as KCIA (Korean intelligence) agents by the former head of that agency, etc etc etc, seem to have escaped your notice. Do some research, please.

Several years ago, he made a conscious effort to change the public's perception of the Moonies, while leaving the structure and goals of his group intact and untouched. It looks like you may have fallen for it.

I stand behind my every word.

by Len on Thu Aug 24, 2006 at 10:06:08 PM EST
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They practice what former members call "Heavenly Deception" which means it is OK to lie to save the world for what Moon interprets as "God's" wishes. They will tell you they want a world that is run by people doing God's will but leave out that Moon and his organization just happen to know God's will better than anyone so therefore they play the role of arbiter of God's desires. They, of course, will deny that they practice Heavenly Deception and when they deny it they are lying or truly can't see the reality of what their organization does.

Example: Here is a statement by Ron Paquette, former member from the 2000 BBC documentary "Emerpor of the Universe."

Not paying your taxes, withholding payroll taxes, paying people under the table cash so you didn't have to pay the government money, that saved Father money, so therefore it was OK. It was doing God's will because anything that supported Moon or supported the agenda was doing God's will.

Moon followers will always expect to be given a wide berth when they are deceiving you and themselves but if you misspeak so much as vowel they will never let you forget it.

Here's a little something about how Moon sees his relationship with Jesus from a review by Robert Parry of Nansook Hong, Moon's x-daughter in law's book.

http://www.consortiumnews.com/1990s/consor25.html

Even as Moon poured hundreds of millions of dollars into the American Right and ingratiated himself with President Reagan, Moon's religious pronouncements grew increasingly bizarre. When one of his teenage sons, Heung Jin, died in a car crash in 1983, Moon declared the Heung Jin had supplanted Jesus as the King of Heaven.

In 1984, Moon arranged a strange ceremony in which he married his dead son's spirit to Hoon Sook Pak, the daughter of longtime Moon lieutenant Bo Hi Pak, then the publisher of The Washington Times. Moon's theology required the wedding because he believed only married individuals could enter the Kingdom of Heaven.

Even Jesus needed Rev. Moon's help in this way. "In what must stand as his ultimate act of arrogance, Sun Myung Moon actually had matched Jesus to an elderly Korean woman," Nansook Hong wrote. "Jesus himself needed the intervention of the Reverend Moon to move through those gates" of heaven.

EVERYTHING centers on Moon, a megalomaniac at the least. Jesus, God, no one can get the job done without Moon. The organization gives lip service to "family values." That's another whole discussion but you can watch this video for some discussion to give you a feel for it.

http://www.xenutv.com/cults/gb2.htm

The Moon organzation will also claim to be about "true love" and "living for the sake of others." haha Tell that to the widows in Japan who the Unification Church has been found responcible for swindling them out their husband's life insurance policies.

Find some of that here:
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/8/9/13513/46197

They'll say "oh, it wasn't His fault" but the fact is Moon says Jesus FAILED. What I don't understand is why the members hide from this belief in public, other than it causes them problems when trying to sell their wares. Or when they are selling their rationalizations to black ministers as to why they dump dirt on the cross when they bury it under Moon's flag at his orders.

Some of that here:
http://gadflyer.com/articles/?ArticleID=258

Moon doesn't just believes he is 1,000 times greater than Jesus, he believes he is better than God and has said so.

There are many more references like these:

Quoting Moon:

Since Jesus failed to carry out his whole mission, there must come the Lord of the Second Advent, as the third Adam. God's will once intended, does not change. [Speech On True Parents' Birthday - Sun Myung Moon Tarrytown, New York - Feb. 16,1975 - Master Speaks ]

Jesus was to become a perfect man, completely unified, and as a man who could realize God's full potential of creation, Jesus was to give birth to his sons and daughters. However, Jesus was unable to do this. This is the most important responsibility for a man, but Jesus failed to fulfill it. [Blessing And Ideal Family (Part 1)by Sun Myung Moon ]

You must love the people you are helping to restore even more than your own child. Then Satan will say, "You deserve to be blessed." In that way, you will be blessed on a victorious foundation. That was what Jesus failed to do. [Chapter 2 The Master Speaks On The Blessing And Witnessing ]

In order to restore a family, the entire nation stands in the position where Jesus failed. [Father's Word in Washington D.C. 17 May 2003 Sun Myung Moon]

Do you understand? [Yes] There will be a formation of the people. Jesus failed in his attempt to achieve this. [The Way of the Spiritual Leader by Sun Myung Moon Section 2 - Witnessing (Part 6)]

In order to receive the Blessing, you must go beyond the standard at which Jesus failed.[Blessing And Ideal Family (Part 1) by Sun Myung Moon]

Here we have them using children's games to drive home the point that Jesus failed. This was in the Unification News April 2005, so no need to scrub it..

Children's Workshop and Youth Workshop in Winston Salem, NC

By Rev. Mike Lamson

From March 18-20, 2005 a children's workshop was organized in Winston Salem, North Carolina. The workshop focused on helping children from 6- 11 years old learn the "Family Pledge"...

Over the three days we all learned a lot about Fathe'rs(sic) vision for us to become engrafted into his family....

After lunch we went outside for an "activity pertaining to the messiah's course". This activity involved groups of two people washing and getting their feet washed. The idea was to humble yourself before someone else by washing their feet. It seemed those getting their feet washed were more embarrassed than those washing.

The next activity was "the Crucifixion." We all got crucified! One person at a time would pick up a wooden cross and run around a storage shed once and then meet on the hill where everyone would ridicule and throw things. We all felt some heartistic pain. After that we had a human wheelbarrow contest by team. The next activity had us laying firewood logs on top of each other to reach a certain height, which represented the foundation for the messiah to come. At our first success Takamitsu just pushed them over and informed us that Jesus failed and we have to start all over again. Later we went to a large field where the staff had hidden small scraps of paper with our names on them, representing how hard it was for True Parents to find the principle. Some kids found their paper and some did not.

Night fell, and we went inside where we had dinner and watched a musical about Father's life. Then we started a 500-piece jigsaw puzzle just for fun, which we were unable to finish that night even though we stayed up till 1:00 am trying.

Ron, to use your words...your comment about your beliefs in this regard was either a lie, or incompentence.  Which was it?

by Lou on Thu Aug 31, 2006 at 03:09:09 AM EST
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