Donate to or support
Talk to Action








The Indian River Incident : What You Can Do

link > The "Stop the ACLU Coalition" Shaming Project
How you can help stop "Stop The ACLU" just by sending a few emails



 'Left Behind' video game imageThe Shaming Project

does the violence of "Left Behind: Eternal Forces" bother you ? If so, what can you do ? Well, to begin with you can email Jonathan Hutson's stories to people you know. That will help to bring more public scrutiny of the game. Public shaming really works ! Just click on the "email" icon and link at the top or bottom of the story and you'll be taken to a form that will allow you email the first story, The Purpose Driven Life Takers or the latest installment without leaving this site. Thanks. 'Left Behind' video game image




Wolves in Sheeps Clothing
By John Dorhauer Mon Aug 28, 2006 at 11:06:03 PM EST printable version print story
John Dorhauer, Talk To Action writer
Another tactic of the religious right needs to be talked about. Though not universal, it happens frequently enough that congregational leaders should be aware of it, and should adopt strategies intended to lessen the likelihood of its success.

On the website of the Institute on Religion and Democracy, in their very own mission statement, they talk about training activists. It is the role of these activists to show up in churches and dismantle them. Trained by others in the art of dissent, they are clever manipulators of thought and action who know the things that make for unrest. Sent from another place with a particular mission, they first appear as eager new members who are gladly received into the life of their new target. They are wolves in sheep's clothing.


This is where churches must be smart. No one suspects new members of any ill will or wrong doing; and no where are churches more accommodating and more conciliatory than in their early relationship with new, young, prospective members who show up telling them how wonderful they are. But caution must be advised.

These activists are trained to work their way into positions of power - especially when it is known that there might soon be a pastoral transition. They are looking to get onto Councils and Boards where they can effect meaningful change. They are taught to look for allies along the way - but to do so in ways that do not attract attention to them. They are very good at having the kind of casual conversation about a variety of topics that allow them to know immediately whether the one to whom they are talking and visiting will ever support their effort or not - and the one to whom they are speaking will never know that they have been used in this way. They can do far more than a previously known disgruntled member, because no one suspects a new member of harboring any rancor against a church he or she has just joined; and at the same time, the know disgruntled member attracts the kind of attention that keeps everyone on the lookout for their next move.

Once on boards, they begin to maneuver their way into power. They try out motions intended to curtail the liberality of thought and the extent to which an extravagant welcome can be maintained. For example, a known infiltrator at one of our area churches - Vice Chair of the church's council after only two years in the church - brought a motion to the council limiting what a Sunday School teacher could talk about in an adult Bible Study. This was just the start for this church.

The point is, be wary. This is perhaps the hardest message for church leaders to hear: to move from a position of extreme welcome to visitors and prospective members to one of presumed caution and suspicion is not palatable: not at all.

But there are some simple steps that can be taken without ever threatening any new member who comes simply to enjoy the fellowship provided by your church. First of all, do not receive any member until you know with great certainly from where they are transferring their membership. A call to the pastor of that church does not seem overly paranoid, and can reveal a lot about one for whom caution should be reserved. Finding out that there were problems in the previous setting should not prevent a church from receiving a new member, or lead one to draw the conclusion that this is a trained activist. But it does signal to the leaders, or at least to the pastor, that this person should be watched, and that the church should wait until there is implicit trust in this person and their dedication to the mission, vision, and purpose of the church before they are given positions of leadership, power, and authority.

It should also become the standard practice of every church that they do a new members class before taking in new members. If folk are going to join a particular church and denomination, they should do so fully aware of and fully invested in the life, mission, and vision of that church. It is essential that in these classes that the especially controversial positions of a church and denomination are discussed and that at the very least everyone know that there will always be an atmosphere of open and mutual respect. And no one should be asked to join the church unless and until they can demonstrate their appreciation for and comfort with this openness. Let me be clear here: this is not to say that every member that comes into a denomination or a church must every position they have taken. But they should appreciate that in any denomination there is space for dissent, respect for the other, and covenant even with those whose positions are contrary.

If these steps are taken, it increases the likelihood that activists, moles, and outside agitators are found before they begin their work. For the preservation of a local church, these simple steps should become standard operating procedure.




Display:
John-

Thanks for this alert.  Anyone with any experience in the SBC and CBF knows that this can, and often does, happen in moderate churches.  

Is it necessarily a bad thing to require something of church members?  Is it wrong or immoral to screen people, or to require a few things of people as they enter the fellowship of a new congregation?  For centuries many branches of the church has practiced a three-year catechesis prior to joining.   Don't forget that the primitive church had to run a background check on Saul/Paul before trusting him with full access to the community!  The fundamentalists have learned, in many instances, that high barriers to entry have led to the formation of stronger Christians.

Pastors should not become overly suspicious, but requiring more of church members should be seen as a positive, not negative, development.  

by Steven D. Martin on Tue Aug 29, 2006 at 06:53:56 AM EST

How right you are.

We are all already being told to screen all volunteers - even ones whom we have know for years - for background checks. Without that, no church will be offered liability coverage. It is seen as a step taken to protect the church, and especially its children, from predators - none of which wears a scarlet letter on their forehead.

It does not seem untoward at all for church's to take the same kind of precaution for the safety, protection, and preservation of their members when new families join the church. Ensuring both that new members know full well the purpose, mission, and vision of the church they are joining, and can fully embrace it, is a simple thing for church leaders to undertake.
Shalom, Rev. Dr. John C. Dorhauer "Time makes ancient good uncouth; we must onward still and upward who would keep abreast of truth." from Lowell, "The Present Crisis"
by John Dorhauer on Tue Aug 29, 2006 at 08:11:41 AM EST
[ Parent ]



Having standards before admitting people to positions of authority is not a bad idea (especially if it blocks the dominionists and fundamentalists), but putting barriers to church membership is an idea that truly bothers me.

There are a lot of unchurched people in the world who have been severely burned by the churches (my wife and I are two).  Indeed, from the things I've learned from TTA and CAP, the dominionists have been largely the ones to blame for most of the injuries- at least those of the last 10 years or so.  If I went to a church because I found it welcoming... but then found barriers before full acceptance, I would turn my back on them and go elsewhere.  While in the Episcopal church, I passed the barriers and standards- yet found myself to be at best a "second class citizen".

I am tired of being a second class (or even third class) citizen.

by ArchaeoBob on Tue Aug 29, 2006 at 11:02:55 AM EST

I do not perceive that as barriers - not at all. And I certainly do not hope that it leads to a notion of second class of any kind.

I just think that before anyone join any organization, they know full well what the organization stands for, supports, and expects from its members: this is sound advice under any set of circumstances. Also, every organization should maintain its right to refuse membership to anyone who is unwilling to support its central purposes and mission - inlcuding the church. It is unwise under any circumstances just to receive any and all into membership, and especially true in an environment in which we now know that some are being trained to join us with the particular mission to tear us apart from within. And they can do that without being given official positions of power.

This is good advice I think even without the dynamic of church takeovers. Again, it is not about putting up barriers, but about ensuring that they who join do so because they know who you are, what you expect of them, and can affirm that willingly and wholeheartedly. No one should be offended that a pastor of a governing board require new members to join a new members class prior to joining a church - in many places this has been standard for quite some time.
Shalom, Rev. Dr. John C. Dorhauer "Time makes ancient good uncouth; we must onward still and upward who would keep abreast of truth." from Lowell, "The Present Crisis"
by John Dorhauer on Tue Aug 29, 2006 at 02:38:33 PM EST
[ Parent ]



I suspect that those Cleveland Sunday school members Steve wrote about,  who so conveniently used material from IRD to present propositions at the Holston conference, were in fact trained agitators.  I'd really like to know the names and backgrounds on those folks to confirm or rebut my feelings.

by nofundy on Tue Aug 29, 2006 at 11:04:24 AM EST
Perhaps not front-line shock troops, but I think it's plausible that the IRD gave the Cleveland Sunday School class I wrote about some help after the fact.  I suspect this because of a rebuttal that appeared in our conference newspaper in July.  The style of writing was typical of someone formerly employed in CIA psyops, if you catch my drift...

by Steven D. Martin on Wed Aug 30, 2006 at 06:20:42 AM EST
[ Parent ]


FWIW I got a bit of discussion from and IRD defender when I blogged on this item.  If I ever get time I may "rescue" that last comment for more discussion!  http://blogs.chicagoreader.com/daily-harold/2006/09/02/two-faces- orthodoxy/

by Harold on Fri Sep 08, 2006 at 06:20:50 PM EST


WWW Talk To Action


Author of Ugandan Anti-Homosexuality Bill and the "College of Prayer International"
The Uganda New Vision reports the latest on David Bahati, the MP behind the proposed draconian "Anti-Homosexuality Bill"; he was among attendees at a......
By Richard Bartholomew (2 comments)
Rick Warren Repudiates Martin Ssempa
From Warren Throckmorton's blog: STATEMENT FROM PASTOR RICK & KAY WARREN REGARDING ACTIVITIES OF MARTIN SSEMPA IN UGANDA Martin Ssempa does not represent me,......
By Richard Bartholomew (2 comments)
Dobson And Destiny: Will Religious Right Leader Turn His Focus To Electioneering?
James Dobson, founder of Focus on the Family (FOF), is not a happy camper these days.  "What is happening in Washington right now is......
By Rob Boston (4 comments)
Resource Page on John Hagee and Christian Zionism
Special Focus:  Christian Zionism Following are a list of articles on Christian Zionism that have been posted on Talk2action.org over a period of several......
By Bruce Wilson (1 comment)
Progressive Catholics in Maine Push Back on Question One
On Tuesday November 3rd, voters in Maine can either vote yes or no on "Question One," a potential people's veto of recently enacted legislation......
By Frank Cocozzelli (7 comments)
Renewed Controversy Over Hagee's Sermons
Hagee's controversial sermons are again an issue in the aftermath of Elie Wiesel's appearance at Hagee's church.  This was further escalated after Max Blumenthal......
By Rachel Tabachnick (0 comments)
Back to Israel, Back To Africa ? : The Economist on Pro-Israel Anti-Semitism
As The Economist's Democracy In America blog notes , support for Israel doesn't preclude anti-Semitism: Bigotry comes in many forms, and can easily be......
By Bruce Wilson (1 comment)
CBN Scrubs "Witch Candy" Blog Post
The Christian Broadcasting Network has caved in to scoffers and mockers and scrubbed a blog post which explained the dangers of Halloween - specifically,......
By Richard Bartholomew (8 comments)
Rick Warren Must Denounce Antigay Bill in Uganda
We here at Political Research Associates are calling on Pastor Rick Warren to denounce a bill now being debated in Uganda that criminalizes homosexuality.......
By abbyscher (1 comment)
Family Member Stupak: "I am not trying to kill health reform"
Blue Dog Democrats in Congress played a "magnificent" role in blocking health care reform during the Clinton administration. And, under the "courageous" and "smart"......
By Bruce Wilson (2 comments)
Extreme Lobbying : Southern Baptists' Richard Land Defends Nazi Analogies
Earlier this month I criticized some offensive comments about health-care reform made by Richard Land, the top lobbyist for the Southern Baptist Convention (SBC).......
By Rob Boston (5 comments)
An Open Letter To Elie Wiesel
Dear Mr. Wiesel, Your years of tireless campaigning for human rights and against anti-Semitism have earned our deepest respect. For this reason we have......
By Rachel Tabachnick (1 comment)
Donohue, Scalia, and Religious Supremacy
On October 7, 2009 the U.S. Supreme Court heard arguments on the constitutionality of a seven-foot cross currently standing in the Mojave National Preserve......
By Frank Cocozzelli (6 comments)
Worldwide Biblical Zionists
This is Part Three in a series of articles on why we need J Street, and a new perspective on the meaning of "pro-Israel."......
By Rachel Tabachnick (1 comment)
Top Ten Reasons Christian Zionism "Impairs Israel's Interests"
This is Part Two in a series about the dangers of Christian Zionism, and why organizations like J Street are badly needed to provide......
By Rachel Tabachnick (0 comments)

US News & World Report Showcases Creationist Ray Comfort
US News and World Report's Dan Gilgoff has charitably provided evangelist Ray Comfort a media platform in the form of a US News & World "exclusive" through which Comfort defends his efforts to distribute,......
By Bruce Wilson (0 comments)
Atheist billboard in Central Florida
The organization "Atheists of Florida" sponsored a billboard promoting atheism in Lakeland, Florida.  I, however, have some concerns. ......
By ArchaeoBob (1 comment)
Transcript: Billy Graham and Richard Nixon, February 21, 1973
The following is my own transcript of a 20 minute phone conversation between Richard Nixon and Billy Graham, on February 23, 1973. As far as I am aware this is the only publicly available,......
By Bruce Wilson (0 comments)
Rifqa Bary being sent back to Ohio now
Well, there's a change in this case.  After the judge gets immigration documents and so on from the parents, he will send her back. ......
By ArchaeoBob (0 comments)
The War on The War on Christmas Goes To Pot
The first day of Fall could be considered the official launch date for the annual war on the war on Christmas, which represents a significant part of the the American Family Association business model......
By Bruce Wilson (1 comment)
School Officials off the hook
Today it is reported that the judge excused the school officials who violated the agreement they had over separation of Church and State. ......
By ArchaeoBob (0 comments)
Dominionists trying to outlaw birth control
Well, they're at it again in Florida. ......
By ArchaeoBob (2 comments)
No Danger for Rifqa Bary
The FDLE just completed an investigation and found "no credible reports of threats" against Rifqa Bary. ......
By ArchaeoBob (1 comment)
Truth hitting the mainstream!
I've despaired of ever seeing anything critical or exposing Dominionism hit the mainstream press.  There is now an exception. ......
By ArchaeoBob (0 comments)
Extremism?
The term extremism is currently in vogue to describe hate groups and other malcontents listed as such by knowledgeable monitors like SPLC and others in the T2A sidebar, but while we all know what......
By Jay Taber (2 comments)
My Netroots Nation Panel Talk
Where Do We Stand in the Bright Light of History? Netroots Nation August 14, 2009 Thank You, Professor Ledewitz, for initiating this discussion of a progressive vision for church and state -- and Netroots......
By Frederick Clarkson (0 comments)
Transcript, Jan. 18, 2009 Steven Anderson Sermon Excerpt
Note: the sermon excerpt video and transcript below, from a January 18, 2009 sermon by pastor Steven Anderson of the Tempe, Arizona Independent Baptist Church, begins at approximately 21:30 into Anderson's  one hour, four......
By Bruce Wilson (0 comments)
More anti-Muslim provocation
The local paper reports that students in Gainsville, Florida are wearing T-shirts with "ISLAM IS OF THE DEVIL" printed on them. ......
By ArchaeoBob (1 comment)
Rifqa Bary to stay in Florida
The young ex-Muslim girl who ran away from her parents will be allowed to stay in Florida.  The news article has strong indications that this is purely political. ......
By ArchaeoBob (10 comments)
Framing Fascism
In her recent article, Sara Robinson argues the United States is well on its way to becoming a totalitarian, fascist state. As evidence of this inevitability, she cites current town hall disruptions and threats......
By Jay Taber (11 comments)
Rock Paper Scissors
GOP-sponsored vigilantism has happened before. It is an integral part of domestic terrorism aimed at ethnic minorities and other sub-populations targeted by White Nationalism and Christian Fundamentalism. Catholics, Jews, Blacks, and Native Americans have......
By Jay Taber (2 comments)
PA Shooter's Church taught: "You can commit mass murder, then still go to heaven"
George Sodini, the 48-year-old misogynist who shot up a Pennsylvania Gym full of women on Aug. 4th, killing three women before turning the gun on himself, believed God wouldn't judge him by his actions.......
By Stacey Tallitsch (0 comments)
Vatican grilling Catholic sisters
While I am not Catholic, I accidentally ran across this article which is of interest to us on this blog - it involves Vatican actions that concern attempts at political control... ......
By ArchaeoBob (3 comments)
Sect Controls Women's Destinies
by Carolyn Jessop and Laura Palmer On The Issues Magazine Had I not escaped one night five years ago with my eight children from the manipulation and control of the FLDS (Fundamentalist Church of......
By On The Issues Magazine (4 comments)
The Religion of Fear
<h2> Living on Guard</h2> In The Religion of Fear, Jason C. Bivins examines conservative evangelical culture as it intersects with America's love affair with spectacular violence and the popular culture of fright that has......
By Jay Taber (2 comments)
Monvee: Profiles of the Mega-churched.
[ed: updated from diary section] Over the last 20 years, a consolidation from the small protestant church has given way to the "Mega-church" where community fellowship goes to die, and prosperity-gospel-rock-concerts are born. Just......
By Stacey Tallitsch (10 comments)
Woman Shoots ex-Husband in Groin, To "Let The Demons Out"
An investigating detective read an entry from a three ring binder, written shortly before the crime: "I know now what I have to do. There are three demonic spirits in (Dr. Loher), one assigned......
By Bruce Wilson (0 comments)
Separation of Church and State attacked in Florida
A Central Florida organization, "The Community Issues Council" has funded a number of billboards attacking the separation of Church and State, using "Quotes" from some of the Founding Fathers. ......
By ArchaeoBob (5 comments)
Radio host: We're only united through Christianity
Most of you in Indiana may know about Peter Heck, who hosts a daily radio show in Kokomo and puts out a column that appears in several newspapers across the state and in OneNewsNow.......
By Christian Dem in NC (1 comment)
Cindy Jacobs--the new leader of the NAR
You may remember that Lou Engle has made moves of late to position himself as the new power in the religious right.  He's a member of the Apostolic Council of Prophetic Elders, a group......
By Christian Dem in NC (2 comments)
James F. Linzey Espouses anti-Semitic, White Racialist Conspiracy Theory
James F. Linzey is a prominent, active duty chaplain in the United States military. Linzey has stated that he was the command chaplain for the Operation Iraqi Freedom troop mobilization prior to the US......
By Bruce Wilson (3 comments)
White Supremacist named as Holocaust Museum Shooter
An 89 year old, vehemently antiSemitic  Ron Paul supporter has been named by police as the gunman who opened fire in the Holocaust Museum shortly after noon today: Gunman, guard shot at Holocaust museum......
By CynthiaGee (0 comments)
From Focus On The Family to La Familia Michoacana
I didn't think my work on the religous right would converge with what I'm doing on the narcoguerra in Mexico...but here it is: the Faith-Based Cartel. ......
By julydogs (2 comments)
A Pagan Among the Mainstream Churches in Boise
The participation by an "out" Pagan in the Idaho Hunger Relief Task Force proves that some religions will accept and welcome help from all quarters, in recognition that we are all human.  The glaring......
By Chiawana (3 comments)
Clarkson on CounterSpin
Hear me discuss the Tiller assasination this week on the nationally syndicated radio program CounterSpin, the progressive media criticism show produced by Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting (FAIR).  You can also listen via Mp3......
By Frederick Clarkson (0 comments)

More Diaries...


Donate to or support
Talk to Action

Left Behind: Eternal Forces: Installments of Jonathan Hutson's Talk To Action expose series on the "Left Behind: Eternal Forces" video game have been viewed by up to 1/2 million people. See our site section featuring Over 35 original articles covering the controversial "Left Behind: Eternal Forces" video game that has provoked a boycott by a coalition of religious groups and a letter writing campaign urging Walmart to stop selling the game. Media inquiries click here
(image: detail from Francoise Dubois' rendition of the Bartholomew's Day Massacre reveals the actual nature of religious warfare)