Springfield, Ready for Homobigot Scott Lively?
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Tue Dec 04, 2007 at 10:39:19 AM EST
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Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at PhotobucketHolocaust revisionist and homobigot Scott Lively is moving to Springfield, MA.  Lively has been the CA state director for Don Wildmon's American Family Association.

Most recently, Lively co-founded Watchmen on the Walls, a quasi-religious anti-gay hate group which calls homosexuality "inherently evil".  His collaborators include Alexey Ledyaev and Ken Hutcherson.  Alexey Ledyaev is the leader of the Latvia-based international New Generation church.  New Generation's flagship location in the USA is Springfield, MA, to which Lively plans to move.  Hutcherson is founder of Antioch Bible Church, another anti-gay enterprise located near Seattle, WA.

Lively, Hutcherson and Ledyaev spend a good deal of time traveling around the former Soviet Union and the US spreading the anti-gay message of hate.  Members of Ledyaev's church in CA recently murdered a gentle gay man, Satender Singh.  Lively calls the murder "unfortunate" but neither he nor his associates will repudiate it.  Rather, Watchmen on the Walls has made this  "statement to the world's press". (see below the flip)

[Watchmen is a] "world association of men and women of all races, colours and nationalities who believe in the superiority of the natural family and marriage of one man and one woman".

"We are against cohabitation, divorce, abortion, adultery and other acts that undermine society on which civilization is based.

"But in particular, we oppose homosexuality because this destructive practice in the evils of organized political movement and became the principal enemies of the natural family," the statement said.

"We do not support violence and did not condone violence.  We will not apologise for the fight against homosexuality because it is inappropriate and harmful unnatural phenomenon, in both moral and physical, and psychological relationships.

"This fact is obvious to the vast majority of people on earth, which we represent.

"We reject hate in recriminations.  We know that some hate homosexuals, but we are not.  We see homosexuals similar to alcoholics, that is, as the unfortunate people who have been held hostage by their harmful lifestyles.

"Even refusing treatment, they are on a par with alcoholics' right to privacy in their own dwellings.  But public recruitment adherents of this way of life that is unacceptable.

"Public morality must denounce homosexuality ... to the fullest extent possible, minimising its impact on society.

"Our task is to merge with associates around the world and assist them in the approval of the natural family and traditional marriage, as well as the healing of homosexuals, which in this endeavour.  We will help those who share our beliefs, to take key positions in education, business, government and the media around the world," the statement warned.

"We know that this attitude will be met vigorously those who believe homosexuality is normal and useful, especially journalists in Europe and America, many of whom are themselves homosexual or their active supporters.  We know that these people will criticise us, but we will not allow them to intimidate and deprive us of our legitimate right to participate in the open discussion of the direction in which society should evolve and countries of the world.

"We are searching for the sense of cooperation between men and women in different countries and different nationalities.  We do not like cowards, who, for example, dare to speak out against same-marriages, but does not dare to say that homosexuality is inherently evil.  We do not need chauvinists who hate homosexuals in the same way as some people hate other races and strangers.  We need a courageous and decent people who love the natural order of imams and the human family, wishing her approval, promotion, improvement and protection as the primary sources of any society on earth," the statement concludes.

Because this group appeals directly to Slavic immigrants here in the US, one sad blowback from their efforts is mounting anti-Slav tensions in Sacramento.  Sacramento is a New Generation hot spot, and the location the the murder of Satender Singh.  The same could happen in MA if the local Slavic christian organizations don't make the effort to distinguish themselves from these hate mongers.

say what?:
"We need a courageous and decent people who love the natural order of imams and the human family, wishing her approval, promotion, improvement and protection as the primary sources of any society on earth,"

by NancyP on Tue Dec 04, 2007 at 11:09:49 AM EST
the original press release was in russian.  you can see the original and the translation above at this page.  any russian speakers here who can vet the english translation?

by Laurel on Tue Dec 04, 2007 at 11:51:15 AM EST
"We are looking for courageous and respectable people who love and esteem the natural form of a human family and who wish to affirm, promote, strengthen and protect it as the foundation of every society on earth."

Such innocent-sounding words.

by slavdude on Thu Dec 06, 2007 at 04:44:18 PM EST

This report is amazing news and cause for rejoicing here in Sacramento :) Lively has been a pain in our ___ for a long time.  Springfield MA is welcome to him.

In all fairness, to my knowledge, there is no proof that any of the young men who attacked Satender Singh were members of the New Generation Church located here in Sacramento.

It has been reported some of the young men identified themselves as Baptist. The two men who have been charged with his killing live in West Sacramento where there is a Russian Baptist megachurch and we suspect they attended church there.

by JerrySloan on Tue Dec 04, 2007 at 01:39:52 PM EST

Ledyaev also calls himself Baptist.  I read somewhere that his form of Baptist is not at all the same as the American form.  Unfortunately, I can't remember where I read that.  Maybe the SPLC article.  So, the killer being some sort of Slavic Baptist would not be inconsistent with being part of Ledyaev's crowd.  Of course, it doesn't prove anything, either.

by Laurel on Tue Dec 04, 2007 at 02:08:03 PM EST

I am a member of the Greater Springfield Unitarian Universalist Society, and a good friend of mine is the chair of the Governing Board.  I just e-mailed her a link to this article.

We don't have any Russian members to my knowledge, but we do have a strong and devoted gay/lesbian presence in our congregation, including our minister.  If they decided to go after any religious entity in the Springfield area, it will be us, and if this helps us to be ready, well and good.

Thank you.

Peace -


by Ellid on Tue Dec 04, 2007 at 07:37:04 PM EST

And we will stand strong against hate.

by Frederick Clarkson on Tue Dec 04, 2007 at 07:41:02 PM EST

Our own Richard Bartholomew also posted an extensive discussion of Lively and his Balitc buddies here at Talk to Action.

by Frederick Clarkson on Tue Dec 04, 2007 at 08:08:44 PM EST

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