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Bush Meets Dobson, Christian Right To Discuss Iran
By Max Blumenthal Tue May 15, 2007 at 12:29:49 AM EST printable version print story
Yesterday, I reported for Raw Story on a private meeting between President George W. Bush and a dozen Christian right leaders including James Dobson. The topic of the meeting? It wasn't the usual gay stuff that so excites evangelical rightists. And no, it wasn't abortion either. The topic was Iran and Iraq. My full Raw report follows:

President George W. Bush met privately with Focus on the Family Founder and Chairman James Dobson and approximately a dozen Christian right leaders last week to rally support for his policies on Iraq, Iran and the so-called "war on terror."

"I was invited to go to Washington DC to meet with President Bush in the White House along with 12 or 13 other leaders of the pro-family movement," Dobson disclosed on his radio program Monday. "And the topic of the discussion that day was Iraq, Iran and international terrorism. And we were together for 90 minutes and it was very enlightening and in some ways disturbing too."

Details of the meeting were disclosed by Dobson during Monday's edition of his Focus on the Family radio program.

Dobson described Bush as "upbeat and determined and convinced,"� adding, "I wish the American people could have sat in on that meeting we had."

Dobson went on to enumerate a series of meetings convened by Christian right leaders in Washington to discuss the supposedly existential threat to the United States from a nuclear Iran.

"I heard about this danger [from Iran] not only at the White House but from other pro-family leaders that I met during that week in Washington," he said. "Many people in a position to know are talking about the possibility of losing a city to nuclear or biological or chemical attack. And if we can lose one we can lose ten.

"If we can lose ten we can lose a hundred," he added, "especially if North Korea and Russia and China pile on."

Later in his broadcast, during a discussion about Iran with author and self-proclaimed "prophecy expert" Joel Rosenberg, Dobson drew a parallel between current Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmedinejad and Adolf Hitler.

"The world looked at Hitler and just didn't believe him and tried to appease him the way we're hearing in Washington today," Dobson remarked. "You know, the President seems to me does understand this, as I told you from that meeting I had with him the other day, but even there it feels like somebody ought to be standing up and saying, `We are being threatened and we are going to meet this with force -- whatever's necessary.'"

Dobson continued, "Some of our listeners might not like that but I tell you, if we didn't stand up to Hitler, we'd be speaking German today."




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Do we have a secret government here? What an unholy alliance.

Bush is just stroking Dobson's ego and putting a hook in his mouth. What does Dobson know about geo-politics? Is he getting Dobson's OK for something or just using Dobson to propagandize his sheeple?

Pro family leaders? WWJB(Who Would Jesus Bomb)?

IMPEACH already!

by SharonB on Tue May 15, 2007 at 04:53:36 PM EST


--Does anyone know who the "12-13 pro-family leaders" were besides Dobson?
--Dobson said that he couldn't "quote directly" what was discussed in this meeting.  The only reason why he wouldn't be able to would be if CLASSIFIED INFORMATION was discussed.  Why would these leaders who are to the best of our knowledge not elected or appointed government officials be privy to CLASSIFIED INFORMATION?  Do these religious leaders have security clearances, and if so, WHY?

by ulyankee on Tue May 15, 2007 at 03:16:06 PM EST
12 apostles to the [anti-]Christ? I'm betting that Tony Perkins and Gary Bauer were with Dobson on this. Dobson came to DC and did a broadcast out of their office (against Hate Crimes expansion) while he was in town. I bet the meeting with Bush came on the heels of that.

by SharonB on Wed May 16, 2007 at 02:31:55 PM EST
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In exchange for pledging to veto expansion of Hate Crimes legislation, Dobson and the 12 agreed to push for a case to for war. Obligingly, Dobson is doing a week-long "Danger of Islamo-fascism" and nuclear terrorism fest on his daily broadcasts.

by SharonB on Thu May 17, 2007 at 05:21:20 PM EST
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I can imagine what Isaiah the Prophet would say if it were he who met Bush. the prophet would flay Bush alive for his war crimes and his rape of the poor. When I imagine what Dobson would say to Bush and compare it with Isaiah i know which of these two is not a man of God. (hint, the only man of God in this threesome died about 700 BC, namely Isaiah himself) All it takes to know this is to actually bother to read the Bible, which in fact is something, except for those few out of context verses which can be twisted to excuse their heresies, the Religious Right do not actually do, even though they might devoutly gaze at the open pages of the Bible every day. I know from personal experience how much of the Bible a fundamentalist actualy ignores, because when i was a fundamentalist in the common sense of the term, i nearly destroyed myself by my own selective Bible reading. The difference is I had a conscience: I turned my madness inward, destroying myself, they turn theirs outward and will destroy society.

by strefanash on Tue May 15, 2007 at 11:09:49 PM EST

The big question, now that I think about it, is, was Pastor John Hagee there?

by Max Blumenthal on Thu May 17, 2007 at 10:57:02 PM EST

I listened to the shows on radical Islam on FoF that week. What was really scary is what wasn't said. i.e. "what should be done". Besides Rosenberg who basically said: "more missionaries to the Middle East", none of the speakers said clearly:"let's do this". But the tone that Dobson set, the tone of fear and threat and doom was such that the unspoken word: "War" hung in the air throughout the presentation. If Hagee was there, we know that he wouldn't hesitate to use the word. Dobson, though, usually does it this way: toss out the danger, the menace, come right up to the edge then stop, leaving it to others to reach the conclusion and Dobson to avoid any responsibility for the result of what he's said.

by KevinJones on Sat May 19, 2007 at 01:09:45 PM EST


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