Yearly Kos: Discussions About the Religious Right and What to Do About It
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Thu Jun 28, 2007 at 09:30:37 PM EST
The full schedule for the Yearly Kos is not yet out, but consider yourself among the first to know that there will be at least two sessions focused on the religious right.

The theme of the conference is "Building a Netroots Nation." It will take place August 2-5 at the McCormick Place Convention Center in Chicago, IL, and will bring together more than 1,500 political leaders, grassroots activists, and of course ... bloggers! Among the highlights will be a Democratic presidential candidates forum moderated by blogger Jeffrey Feldman of Frameshop, who has been a guest front pager here at Talk to Action.  Candidates who have confirmed so far: Chris Dodd, John Edwards, Barack Obama, and Bill Richardson.

Chip Berlet, Talk to Action contributor, and Senior Analyst, at Political Research Associates will join me in addressing the question, "Is the Religious Right Really Dead?" -- and -- "What to do about the religious right." Both sessions will be moderated by Rev. Dr. Susan Brooks Thistlethwaite, President of Chicago Theological Seminary, who has also been a guest front pager at Talk to Action.

Roundtable: Is the Religious Right Really Dead? Friday Aug 3, 1 - 2:15

Workshop: What to do about the Religious Right Friday Aug 3 4 - 4:15

  In Chip and Susan, we get thoughtful people who know what they are taking about, and there is no mistaking that they are clear in their convictions and intent on moving them forward.

Favoring civil discourse as an outcome, generally means also using it as a method for discussing how we are to contend with the religious right in the context of a democratic pluralist society. Being smart about using temperate language does not make one any less tough minded: it allows one to demonstrate the intellectual rigor that often escapes those who don't know the difference between a flamethrower and a penetrating insight.

Chip and Susan are both theorists and practitioners of how this works.  Here are a few samples:

Chip wrote regarding the longtime counter productive style among Beltway insiders who thought it was smart politics to demonize people who are motivated by their conservative religious views to be involved in public life:

I'm uncomfortable when I hear people of sincere religious faith described as religious political extremists.What does that term mean? I worry that many people hear it as a term of derision that says we're good and they're bad. There is no topical content. It's a label that says folks are outside the mainstream; and it lumps together leaders and followers, and blurs distinctions within the Christian Right that I think are important. Most conservative Christian evangelicals do not want to impose a theocracy on our country. I'd like to be able to talk to them about the issue of Christian dominionism within the Christian Right.

Polls show that most people in the United States do not agree with the narrow legislative agenda of the leaders of the Christian Right. Polls also show that most people think of themselves as part of an organized religion, and that as many as 100 million of our neighbors think of themselves as Christian evangelicals or "born again." Why would an organizer start out by offending half their potential audience with language that is abrasive?

We need to challenge conservative policies as part of a progressive grassroots organizing effort based on civil and constructive dialog. The whole idea of grassroots organizing is to reach out to people who may not already think they agree with you. As a community organizer, when I heard discussions about slogans, I always asked: "What's my next line?"

Let's role-play. So here I am knocking on a door in Emporia, Kansas, and when the door opens I lead with "We have to stop the religious political extremists!" What's my next line? (That's assuming my nose wasn't broken when the door was slammed in my face). Unless the person already agrees with me, there is no constructive next line.

I think it's time to stop using phrases such as "religious political extremist" and "radical religious right." A lot of my friends and allies use this language, but what are friends for if they can't tell you when they think you are wrong? I also think that we should be asking folks in the Christian Right to stop pasting labels on those of us who are liberal or progressive. I'm an equal opportunity curmudgeon.

 

Getting over -- over-heated language -- gives us the freedom, to get into the substance, in strong language, as appropriate: Berlet writes, for example:

Few in the mainstream media have dared confront the fact that the best-selling Left Behind series is a primer valorizing bigotry, paranoia, and guerrilla warfare against those who promote tolerance, pluralism, and global cooperation. Almost four years ago, however, author Gershom Gorenberg, blasted the Left Behind series for its open "contempt for Judaism," making a "fanatic killer" a hero, and general rejection of tolerance and democratic civil society.

Gorenberg, writing in the American Prospect, objected to the Left Behind series because in it LaHaye and Jenkins:

"promote conspiracy theories; they demonize proponents of arms control, ecumenicalism, abortion rights and everyone else disliked by the Christian right; and they justify assassination as a political tool. Their anti-Jewishness is exceeded by their anti-Catholicism. Most basically, they reject the very idea of open, democratic debate. In the world of Left Behind, there exists a single truth, based on a purportedly literal reading of Scripture; anyone who disagrees with that truth is deceived or evil."

Dr. Thistlethwaite also contributed a guest front page post to Talk to Action about the documentary film Jesus Camp.  

Jesus Camp is an award-winning documentary about an evangelical camp called Kids on Fire. The movie is neither satire nor a Michael Moore type "shock-umentary" designed to show only the worst aspects of the camp. Pastor Becky Fisher, the camp's leader, has said that she thinks the film represents what she is trying to do. The film, while sympathetic to kids and leaders alike for their beliefs, raises very troubling questions about whether children have the right to be free from extreme political indoctrination, even in religiously motivated political movements that are very sincere.

Make no mistake--the leaders of this camp and its supporters are quite comfortable with the idea that they are training "God's Army" to be warriors in a life-and-death struggle to shape future politics in the United States. The camp makes no pretense at being anything but a way to create a generation of voters who will determine the outcome of elections.

...Jesus Camp raises a number of troubling questions. Should children be used as a means for their parents' political and religious ends, or do they have their own rights to some religious and political freedom in a democracy? How can they learn to be free if they're not allowed to achieve goals separate from their parents and be with those who expose them to different views? How can they become effective citizens in a pluralistic democracy without learning a definition of freedom that includes the public good?

Registration for The Yearly Kos closes on July 14th.

Meanwhile, If you are not able to attend, many of the sessions will be available live on the internet via Second Life, some of it interactive. It's all new to me. Check it out. It sounds quite amazing.  

Of related interest will be a panel organized by Pastordan:

Faith or No: Building Secular-Religious Coalitions

Aug 3 9:15am - 10:15am

How can religious and secular progressive bloggers work and play together productively? Find out through examinations of the current religious and political climate, practical tips on working across the divide, and a how-to guide on starting flamewars.

I'll have more on all this as the convention gets closer.

Update [2007-6-30 0:19:37 by Frederick Clarkson]: People may be interested to read Dr. Thistlethwaite's testimony against the nomination of John Roberts as Chief Justice. I remember hearing it live on NPR. It stands up well. PDF.




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Glad to see that you will be there. If all goes well, see you there.

One of the things I find troubling on our best progressive blogs is the lack of understanding and often downright disrespect for religion or religious people. It's hard when we have to win over our own people in order to address the bigger problems with the right.

by RevDeb on Thu Jun 28, 2007 at 11:35:31 PM EST

Hostility to all religion and indeed, making all relgious people fair game, holds back productive conversation on a lot of things religious and non-religious people have in common, including and especially, for our purposes, serious discussion of the religious right and what to do about it.

Pastordan's panel will hopefully make some strides for bloggers in sorting these things out.

Look forward to seeing you at YK!

by Frederick Clarkson on Fri Jun 29, 2007 at 12:42:22 AM EST
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I have an interesting win-win-win proposition for YearlyKos about religion and the military.

shockwave@inorbit.com

by Shockwave on Thu Jun 28, 2007 at 11:38:20 PM EST


Fred-

I didn't know you and Chip were going to be at YearlyKos. I'll be speaking as well on this same subject, about the religious right's control of so many school boards around the country and how it affects science education. We won't be in the same section, but let's plan to meet up there. There's a group having dinner that evening from ScienceBlogs, perhaps you guys could join us.

by Ed Brayton on Fri Jun 29, 2007 at 09:59:15 PM EST

Not sure what the travel plans are yet, but I look forward to meeting up one way or another!

When you have info on your session finalized, be sure to post it here. We'd certainly like as many of our readers who are considering coming, to do so, and among those who are planning to attend, to know in advance where to find you.

by Frederick Clarkson on Fri Jun 29, 2007 at 11:37:32 PM EST
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B. Obama spoke at our General Synod this month. His remarks are available via
www.ucc.org.

While you're there read/watch Bill Moyer's as well.

by Don Niederfrank on Sat Jun 30, 2007 at 07:57:41 PM EST


And we must not alienate those Christians who support religious freedom. But it's long past time we admit that the religious right is not a minority in American Christianity. It is a significant majority. Polls showing that most people don't support a theocracy are meaningless. It would be like my claiming that racism doesn't exist because polls show that almost no Americans identify themselves as racists. There are certain labels that folks just aren't comfortable with, even if they are appropriate. And theocrat is one of them. If you had genuine discussions with conservative Evangelicals rather than a superficial poll, you'd find that most are theocrats, in spite of how few would say they were. Interestingly, you then go on to talk about Left Behind and all the negative things these books promote. Well, who do you think is buying all those millions of copies, rational Christians? Left Behind is probably the most successful series of Christian books since the Bible. And I defy you to find any book that presents a positive tolerant Christianity that comes anywhere close to that level of sales. Again, we must work with our Christian Allis, but must recognize their minority status in their own faith. Otherwise, we might expect more from them than they are able to deliver. Ultimately, accepting truth, even unpleasant truth, will benefit us far more than believing a comforting fantasy. The religious right will not stop demonizing the left. Why would anyone give up a successful tactic? In the past 30 years, they have gained enormously while the left has slipped in to irrelevancy.

by Dave on Sat Jun 30, 2007 at 08:26:33 PM EST

YK clashes with a business trip I'm taking- wish I could go, because I'd love to meet up with some of you- especially Fred, Bruce, and "Shockwave". It'll happen, eventually.

Y'all have fun, and take plenty of notes.

by Lorie Johnson on Sat Jun 30, 2007 at 09:40:25 PM EST



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