On Bennett Show, McCain Waffles Over Hagee Hate Speech
Bruce Wilson printable version print page     Bookmark and Share
Wed Mar 12, 2008 at 12:04:53 AM EST
On Former Secretary of Education Bill Bennett's radio show today Bennett, a Catholic who has advocated leveling Iraqi cities with nuclear weapons, asked John McCain for a comment on the controversy over McCain's recent endorsement from Pastor John Hagee, who has many notable views and has written that there exists a "clear record of history linking Adolf Hitler and the Roman Catholic Church in a conspiracy to exterminate the Jews", called the church "The Great Whore [of Revelation]" and described it as a "false cult system". McCain responded, "obviously I repudiate any...
any comments* that are anti-Semitic, anti-Catholic, racist, any other... and I condemn them, and I condemn those words that Pastor Hagee uh, apparently, uh... that Pastor Hagee wrote". Then McCain, citing Hagee's claim that his words were "taken out of context", seemed to suggest it was possible that Hagee's beliefs had been misinterpreted and proceeded on to raise irrelevant points on the Pastor's behalf such as: Hagee supports Israel (true, but it's heavily qualified support and only relevant if McCain were both acknowledging
and seeking to justify Hagee's anti-Semitism) and opposes a US "surrender" in Iraq (simply irrelevant). [transcript inside. above, right: audio from Bennett/McCain radio segment, video of Hagee attack Catholic Church ]. *note: McCain failed to repudiate both Hagee's apparent approval of anti-Muslim and anti-Arab hate speech and terrorist acts against the State of Israel.
Bennett: I gotta ask you about something, as a Catholic. This is something a lot of Catholics were talking about. A couple of weeks ago Senator you received the endorsement of San Antonio Pastor John Hagee. He's written about my church - "there's a clear record of history linking Adolf Hitler and the Roman Catholic Church in a conspiracy to exterminate the Jews", he's called the Catholic Church "a great prostitute", except he used a stronger word, he's referred to my church as a "cult"... Your comment on this ? There's been a lot of talk about it.

McCain: Well, obviously I repudiate any... any comments that are anti-Semitic, anti-Catholic, racist, any other... and I condemn them, and I condemn those words that Pastor Hagee uh, apparently, uh... that Pastor Hagee wrote. I will say that he said that his words were taken out of context. He defends his position and I'd hope that maybe you'd give him a chance to respond - he says he has never been anti-Catholic but I repudiate the words that create that impression. I will say - I'd like to say in his behalf - that he's been a very strong supporter of the State of Israel and when we were doing the "No Surrender" tour he came and spoke on behalf of not surrendering in Iraq and so anybody - any comments that are made that are in any way offensive then I repudiate those and for all of the obvious reasons, Bill.

Bennett: Good, good... You're on a... on a campaign of real high-mindedness - you're calling us to what Lincoln would call the "better angels of our nature," Senator McCain. We've been talking about your ads, this ad with Churchill...




Display:
I expect Hagee with use one of two arguments to defend his Catholic "Great Whore" Church comments.  First, he might say it's not him but the Bible that says it (the  archetypal "get out" clause for fundamentalist bigots of all kinds).  Second, and probably more likely in this case, he'll claim that the Revelation uses a number of esoteric and hard to understand passages that have all to be understood in the precisely the right context before their true meaning is recognized, and therefore the Great Whore comment isn't really as bad as it seems.  (i.e. blind them with junk theology, and hope they pretend to understand what the heck you're saying and agree).

by tacitus on Wed Mar 12, 2008 at 02:37:33 AM EST
You're probably right, but both arguments are invalid in my opinion, for historical reasons, and they both also founder on the shoals of common sense - why would any God with a lick of sense dispense revelation through inspired scripture that wouldn't be correctly interpreted for about 18 centuries ?

by Bruce Wilson on Wed Mar 12, 2008 at 12:10:28 PM EST
Parent


in my country moslem will be come mostly rather than the other

reseller hosting


by evelynjroberts on Thu Mar 10, 2011 at 02:01:37 PM EST



WWW Talk To Action


American Christian Right Leaders in Rome
The remarkable and growing alliance between conservative Catholicism and protestant evangelicalism was on prominent display at a recent event at the Vatican. My colleague......
By Frederick Clarkson (0 comments)
Religious Supremacism on the Rise Against Marriage Equality
This is a crosspost of an op-ed I recently published at LGBTQ Nation.  -- FC Christian right undermines marriage equality with religious supremacism FREDERICK......
By Frederick Clarkson (0 comments)
The Author of Loathing Lincoln Explains Why Some on the Christian Right Loathe Lincoln
One under-reported result of the 2014 elections was the rise of Neo-Confederate politics in the U.S. This included the election of unabashed apologist for......
By Frank Cocozzelli (2 comments)
A Catholic Theocracy Grows in Florida
Catholic Right pizza mogul Tom Monaghan and his Ave Maria School of Law are back in the news.  Journalist Eleanor Bader has a new......
By Frederick Clarkson (6 comments)
Mississippi Madness: Group Wants To Designate An Official Religion
A group in Mississippi is collecting signatures for a ballot initiative to change the state constitution in several ways.The proposal put forth by the......
By Rob Boston (5 comments)
I Stand Sunday Part 2
I Stand Sunday took place in Houston, Nov. 2, 2014, motivated by the cities' mayor who subpoenaed sermons from local pastors.  The host church......
By wilkyjr (1 comment)
I Stand Sunday Part 2
I Stand Sunday took place in Houston, Nov. 2, 2014, motivated by the city's mayor who subpoenaed sermons from local pastors.  The host church......
By wilkyjr (0 comments)
Houston's I Stand Sunday
In response to Houston's gay mayor's solicitation of church sermons, on Nov. 2, 2014, Houston Texas will host an I Stand Sunday.  The event,......
By wilkyjr (2 comments)
Real Religious Liberty is Not Oppression
This is a reposting of an op-ed I recently published at LGBTQ Nation -- FC Real Religious Liberty is not Oppression FREDERICK CLARKSON Senior......
By Frederick Clarkson (0 comments)
Houston Mayor Ignites Fervor of Religious Right
The best take on Houston Mayor Annise Parker vs. the churches in her city is the story written by Marv Knox in the Baptist......
By wilkyjr (2 comments)
Four Stories
LGBTQ Nation   In my first bi-weekly column on religious liberty, I discuss how  "Religious liberty is a progressive and liberatory value, over which......
By Frederick Clarkson (2 comments)
Christian Right Voter Mobilization -- The Season Finale
One of the secrets of the success of the Christian Right over the years has been that opponents have taken the movement with insufficient......
By Frederick Clarkson (0 comments)
Sins Of Omission: When Religious Right Leaders Speak, The Whole Truth Is Often Left Behind
When an individual doesn't feel like being absolutely truthful, there are a couple of things he or she can do. One is to simply......
By Rob Boston (2 comments)
Bishop Finn Under Vatican Investigation
Bishop Robert Finn, head of the Diocese of Kansas City-St. Joseph, Missouri has long been a symbol of the ongoing institutional intransigence in addressing......
By Frank Cocozzelli (4 comments)
"The $1-Billion-a-Year [Religious] Right-Wing Conspiracy You Haven't Heard Of"
In honor of the 2014 incarnation of the event known as The Gathering, I've given an interview with Jay Michaelson, writing for the Daily......
By Bruce Wilson (5 comments)

Charles Taze Russell and John Hagee
No doubt exists that Texas mega-church Pastor John Hagee would be loathe to be associated with the theology of Pastor C.T. Russell (wrongly credited with founding the Jehovah's Witnesses) but their theological orbits, while......
COinMS (0 comments)
A death among the common people ... imagination.
Or maybe my title would better fit as “Laws, Books, where to find, and the people who trust them.”What a society we've become!The wise ones tell us over and over how the more things......
Arthur Ruger (0 comments)
Deconstructing the Dominionists, Part VI
This is part 6 of a series by guest front pager Mahanoy, originally dated November 15, 2007 which I had to delete and repost for technical reasons. It is referred to in this post,......
Frederick Clarkson (1 comment)
Republican infighting in Mississippi
After a bruising GOP runoff election for U.S. Senator, current MS Senator Thad Cochran has retained his position and will face Travis Childers (Democrat) in the next senate election. The MS GOP is fractured......
COinMS (2 comments)
America's Most Convenient Bank® refuses to serve Christians
Representatives of a well known faith-based charitable organization were refused a New Jersey bank’s notarization service by an atheist employee. After inquiring about the nature of the non-profit organization and the documents requiring......
Jody Lane (4 comments)
John Benefiel takes credit for GOP takeover of Oklahoma
Many of you know that Oklahoma has turned an unrecognizable shade of red in recent years.  Yesterday, one of the leading members of the New Apostolic Reformation all but declared that he was responsible......
Christian Dem in NC (2 comments)
John Benefiel thinks America is under curse because Egyptians dedicated North America to Baal
You may remember that Rick Perry put together his "Response" prayer rallies with the help of a slew of NAR figures.  One of them was John Benefiel, an Oklahoma City-based "apostle."  He heads up......
Christian Dem in NC (4 comments)
Mississippi Religious Freedom Restoration Act.
Yes, that's right. We have totally lost our religious freedom in Mississippi and it must be restored by our legislators. ......
COinMS (1 comment)
Bill Gothard accused of harassing women and failing to report child abuse
Surprised no one's mentioned this, but one of the longest-standing leaders of the religious right is in a world of trouble.  Bill Gothard has been active in the fundie movement for over half......
Christian Dem in NC (2 comments)
Eugene Delgaudio may lose his day job as Virginia county supervisor
Surprised no one's noticed this, but one of the nation's most virulent homophobes is in a fight to keep his day job.  Eugene Delgaudio is best known as the head of Public Advocate......
Christian Dem in NC (0 comments)
Starkville Becomes First City in Mississippi to Pass Resolution Recognizing LGBT Residents
This caught me by surprise. I guess times are a changin in Dixieland. ------------------------------------- Cross posted from the HRC blog. Starkville Becomes First City in Mississippi to Pass Resolution Recognizing LGBT Residents January 21,......
COinMS (0 comments)
Robert Knight: Running against evolution could potentially be a winner for the GOP
In one of the starkest instances yet of how far gone the religious right is, one of its leading activists thinks that he's found another potential wedge issue that could drive more people into......
Christian Dem in NC (2 comments)
First Catholic official convicted in child sex abuse scandal has conviction overturned
Last year, Monsignor William Lynn, the Archdiocese of Philadelphia's secretary for clergy, was convicted of reassigning a priest whom he knew had molested a young boy to a parish that had a school attached......
Christian Dem in NC (0 comments)
Quotes From Sarah Palin 'War on Christmas" Book v. Quotes From 1920s Anti-Jewish Propaganda
The point of this comparison is not to cast Sarah Palin as a Nazi. Rather, my intent is to underline uncomfortable similarities between contemporary "war on Christmas" talking points propagated by elements of the......
Bruce Wilson (0 comments)
Francis sets up commission on how to deal with pedophile priests
Late yesterday Pope Francis announced--apparently after some prodding--that he will set up a panel to advise him on how to deal with child abuse by priests. The announcement was a forthright acknowledgment by the......
Christian Dem in NC (0 comments)

More Diaries...




All trademarks and copyrights on this page are owned by their respective companies. Comments, posts, stories, and all other content are owned by the authors. Everything else 2005 Talk to Action, LLC.