Islam: Christian Fundamentalism's Antichrist Du Jour
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Sun Jul 13, 2008 at 05:06:37 AM EST
Although Walid Shoebat is no longer on the agenda for John Hagee's up-coming CUFI "Israel Summit", Shoebat's latest book is going to be launched at the International Christian Retail Show in Orlando. Entitled God's War on Terror: Islam, Prophecy, and The Bible, it is co-written by Joel Richardson, author of Antichrist: Islam's Coming Messiah (which was endorsed by Robert Spencer). The books are just the latest example the phenomenon explored by Robert C Fuller in his 1996 book Naming the Antichrist: The History of an American Obsession. As the blurb for that book noted:
Fuller...shows how the colonists saw Antichrist personified in everyone from native Americans to the Church of England. He looks at the Second Great Awakening in the early nineteenth century, showing how such prominent Americans as Yale president Timothy Dwight saw the work of the Antichrist in phenomena ranging from the French Revolution to Masonry. In the twentieth century, Fuller finds a startling array of hate-mongers, such as the Ku Klux Klan, who drew on apocalyptic imagery in their attacks on Jews, Catholics, blacks, socialists, and others. Finally, he considers contemporary fundamentalist writers such as Hal Lindsey and a host of others who have found Antichrist in the sinister guise of the European Economic Community, feminism, and even supermarket barcodes and fibre optics.

Shoebat and Richardson, meanwhile, claim that the Antichrist will be a Muslim leader, and fundamentalist "prophecy experts" are increasingly willing to agree.

I wrote about Shoebat on Talk to Action last week, and I was afterwards contacted by Richardson on my blog. The subsequent correspondence demonstrates perfectly the intellectual dishonesty and opportunism at the heart of this latest fundamentalist Biblical interpretation.

The subject under dispute is somewhat esoteric, but please bear with me.

As I noted last week, Shoebat claims that the Greek number "666" in the Book of Revelation is actually the author's attempt to write "In the name of Allah" in Arabic. He claims that he realised this after consulting ancient codices, in particular the Codex Vaticanus. One point I made in response was that Codex Vaticanus does not contain the Book of Revelation (although it wasn't my main point, and I did allow that Shoebat may perhaps have seen some other ancient manuscript, such as one that is doing the rounds online). Richardson seized on this:

I went to the personal blog of the author of this article and saw that the image that he has posted of himself shows him sitting in a pub sipping a pint of beer. I fear that he may have been sipping a bit too much before writing this article.

The Codex Vaticanus does indeed contain the Book or Revelation, it is simply a later supplementation to the earlier manuscripts. A tiny bit of research could have produced this fact. The actual image of the portion of the Book of revelation that is part of the Codex Vaticanus is below. Scroll to the third column to the right and the top line, marked 18 (Revelation 13:18) contains the image that Walid used:

www.csntm.org/Manuscripts/GA%2003/GA03_150b.jpg

Images of the entire Codex may be viewed here:

www.csntm.org/Manuscripts/GA%2003/

Which could have been found if Mr. Bartholomew had gone here instead of sipping beer:

www.csntm.org/Manuscripts.aspx

Next time, you may wish to step outside of the usual Wikipedia sourcing for your articles Richard.

Actually, I researched the point using various sources, such as The HarperCollins Encyclopedia of Catholicism (1995):

Codex Vaticanus, a fourth century manuscript of the Greek Bible...All NT Scripture after Heb 9:14 is missing.

Other scholarly sources concur (Google Books is useful here). The older Catholic Encyclopedia gives some further background:
In modern times (fifteenth-sixteenth century) the missing folios were added to the codex, in order, as Tregelles conjectures, to prepare it for use in the Vatican Library.

Presumably this is the origin of the "later supplementation" that Richardson thinks in some way makes Shoebat's case stronger; a supplement added 1,000 years later in Italy that in no way can be seen as part of the original Codex. But there's worse: the jpeg in fact shows a page from the 1868 Bibliorum Sacrorum Graecus Codex Vaticanus. This is a facsimile of the ancient text, but it has a typeset version of Revelation tacked on at the end. Shoebat perhaps used a nineteenth-century typeset edition of Revelation to draw the paleographic conclusion that a fourth-century Greek manuscript of the book (which doesn't exist anyway) meant to show Arabic letters!

Richardson's response was amusing: he argues I am still "in error" for some reason, and that I "look bad"; and further that I

tried to overplay a largely irrelevant oversight on Walid's image sourcing (it is irrelevant it his larger point because the image he used is precisely like the Textus Receptus and the Byzantine Majority text or any other ancient Greek Mss)

But Shoebat's whole argument was that by looking at an ancient manuscript he realised that Greek letters were not intended, whereas Greek letters certainly were intended in the "Byzantine Majority Text". And besides, it seems that Shoebat did not apparently look at any "ancient Greek Mss" anyway! It seems that the way to admit to being wrong in the circles in which Richardson moves is simply to declare the issue to be "irrelevant" and to change the whole terms of the argument. Hence Richardson points me to a new site he has made, in which he uses the letters from the 1868 edition (which, by the way, he elongates and misleadingly labels as part of the Codex) as the basis for his comparison with the Arabic.

Richardson continues by demanding to know why

...do I not see you publicly renouncing the doctrine of death for Apostasy that is practiced throughout the Islamic world and endorsed by Orthodox Muslims?

 As it happens, I have written plenty on Islamism and its unhappy consequences, but what that has to do with the issue at hand is unclear to me. Presumably the argument is that prioritizing truth and reason over hating Islam is morally deficient in some way, and that therefore my counter-arguments to the Arabic "666" can be discounted.

For easy reference, here are the relevant pictures:

(1) The oldest fragment of Revelation 13:18 we have, from the Oxyrhynchus Papyri ("616" rather than "666", so the middle figure is different):

(2) The phrase as it appears in the Fiftheenth Century supplement to the Codex Vaticanus* (the "A.D. 350" designation is incorrect for this part of the text):

(3) The text as it appears in the 1868 typeset edition:

(4) The 1868 text as elongated by Richardson:

(5) The 1868 text as reproduced in Shoebat's presentation:

Salem Kirban looks like a serious scholar in comparison.

*Thanks to a reader for confirming the provenance of this - I had originally doubted the designation.




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Incidentally, a bit of irony: Fuller's book was published by the US branch of the Oxford University Press, which first hit paydirt after an academically bizarre but financially astute decision to published the apocalyptic Scofield Reference Bible in 1910!

by Richard Bartholomew on Sun Jul 13, 2008 at 05:15:01 AM EST

I thought the AntiChrist will be a gay German Jew. Had Senator Clinton won the Democratic nomination, the fundies would discovered the AntiChrist will be a 60+year old blonde woman.

by haroldf on Sun Jul 13, 2008 at 05:45:21 AM EST

A theologian I respect believes that fundamentalists/dominionists/whatever (I consider them all part of the same problem) are as close to the "church of the antichrist" as any group could be.   I tend to agree.  They do seem to preach the inverse of Christ.

The last sermon I heard in the Assemblies (when I physically walked out the door- 26 years ago) was a last-days diatribe.  Not once have I heard of any good coming to "Christians" in their preaching- it's all death, doom, and destruction!!!  I even asked one of those preachers -when I was a member of that cult- to preach a sermon about what Christians had to look forward to.  He started (for about a minute) talking on it, but it quickly deteriorated into the usual "Here's what the sinners can expect- you must REPENT!!!" nonsense.  I swear he (and the others) seem to relish the horrible things they talk about!

I think it's a sign of serious emotional/mental issues and I pity anyone caught in their clutches.

The funny thing is- they went at great lengths to "prove" their argument, just as the bozos you deal with do, and just as the "intelligent design" crowd does.  The same sorts of distortions, lies, and false/bad logic also are common to all.

by ArchaeoBob on Sun Jul 13, 2008 at 10:54:55 AM EST


I've heard the broadcasts of Calvary Chapel. They look forward to and revel in the destruction of unbelievers when warlord Jesus returns to take care of this scum. Btw, I also heard a Calvary Chapel pastor preach that 2/3 of the Jews will perish in the holocaust (his word). That's a revelation (no pun intended) about the Jews they claim to love so much. And remember, that if America becomes a "Christian" nation, nonChristrians wil be boarding cattle cars very soon afterward.

by haroldf on Sun Jul 13, 2008 at 12:41:05 PM EST
If you haven't read Margaret Atwood's novel, The Handmaid's Tale, you should do so as soon as you can. She must have done a great deal of extremely distasteful research, as she describes the America which the dominionists would very much love to see, and actively work for.

by nogodsnomasters on Sun Jul 13, 2008 at 04:03:21 PM EST
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and added that experience to the America-watching (I gather that the fundies were thicker on the ground in the US than in Canada).

by NancyP on Sun Jul 13, 2008 at 11:57:52 PM EST
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Thanks for the tip about this novel. I checked it on Amazon.com. It's definitely on my reading list.

by haroldf on Mon Jul 14, 2008 at 05:26:55 AM EST
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Certainly, you do not "look bad." ;-)

by nogodsnomasters on Sun Jul 13, 2008 at 12:19:23 PM EST


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