These are the same folks who have driven people out of their churches through abuse (those people are called walkaways) and caused all sorts of spiritual, emotional, and mental harm to the walkaways- their most wounded victims (and some walkaways don't survive!)  And now they're praying for evil for their "enemies".

This sort of stuff is downright horrible- and anti-Christian.  I don't think Teyose (Jesus) meant asking for harm when he said to love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you and to do them good.  I read that some early manuscripts instead say to bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you.  That is certainly not what is going on here.

It's certainly not turning one's cheek.

What they're "asking for" is that God would remove obstacles from their goals of world domination and for God to do THEIR will, instead of them seeking to do God's will.  They want to turn the rest of us into slaves serving THEIR churches and THEIR masters.

They don't realize just how evil they truly are.

I just wish that the general populace would start seeing them for what they are- and realize that yes, a church can be VERY evil!


by ArchaeoBob on Mon Aug 17, 2009 at 12:34:20 PM EST

The closest thing I can think to this were the imprecatory curses that some of the Israeli Right rained down on Yitzhak Rabin after attempting a peace agreement, and they must have thought their prayers were answered when Yigal Amir assassinated Rabin in 1995. Every major religious and non-religious ethical system has had its version of the Golden Rule, and the concept of imprecatory prayer rather violates this basic principle of living with others in a society. Besides, don't they realize that what goes around comes around?

As far as the hounding of accused witches, I can see this being used against anyone who doesn't quite fit in with the theocrats' vision of an ideal society. It reminds me of the Salem witch hysteria and John Winthrop's hounding of Anne Hutchinson out of Boston.

by khughes1963 on Mon Aug 17, 2009 at 09:24:26 PM EST

Dr. Dale needs to see a psychiatrist. Watch some of the other videos which are all about a minute in length. He has all sorts of weird conspiracy ideas floating around his head. For one, he thinks Hitler was a Rothchild. Doctor, get back on your meds!

by offbeatjim on Tue Aug 18, 2009 at 08:50:58 AM EST

Check out this article:

http://www.forerunner.com/puritan/PS.Prayer.html

The Forerunner was previously a publication of Maranatha Ministries, according to their website.

by brother maynard on Tue Aug 18, 2009 at 02:51:53 PM EST

...the scourge of all good, truthseeking people. I have, from time to time, observed fundamentalists decry euphemisms like "choice".

And here, I sense that they're trying to hide the hideousness of this proposition behind 10-dollar words.

"Cursing" your enemy? Oh, heavens no! Good Christians can't do that!

Engaging in "imprecatory prayer" against your enemy? Hm! Sounds sort of nice; something we can do after tea.

Of course, I'll allow that this may mischaracterize some of these folks; no doubt some of them have no trouble whatsoever cursing people they don't like.

Note: If you look for related YouTube videos, you'll find stuff re C.S. Lewis and the Psalmist's imprecations. Very interesting. Lewis was that rare thing; a free-thinking Christian. He dared to take the evidence of his own eyes, and size it up against the testimony of his own heart. In many ways an admirable and exemplary person.

by razajac on Mon Aug 24, 2009 at 12:46:01 AM EST