Jared Lee Loughner and the "sovereign citizen" movement
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Tue Jan 11, 2011 at 10:16:24 PM EST
According to some information I've been reading lately, Jared Lee Loughner and other similar criminals - including Scott Roeder (who murdered George Tiller) and possibly James Von Brunn (the Holocaust Museum shooter) - are linked not just to "right wing conspiracy theories" in general but to something much more specific:  the so-called "sovereign citizen" movement, a subset of the so-called "Patriot" movement.

I am posting this in response to recent posts by Chip Berlet on the possible extreme right wing connections of Jared Loughner, who is accused of shooting  Rep. Gabrielle Giffords and killing six other people.



On the website of the Southern Poverty Law Center, Mark Potok says, in "Who is Jared Lee Loughner?" on January 9, 2011:

At one point, Loughner refers disparagingly to "currency that's not backed by gold or silver." The idea that silver and gold are the only "constitutional" money is widespread in the antigovernment "Patriot" movement that produced so much violence in the 1990s. It's linked to the core Patriot theory that the Federal Reserve is actually a private corporation run for the benefit of unnamed international bankers. So-called Patriots say paper money -- what they refer to with a sneer as "Federal Reserve notes" -- is not lawful.

At another, Loughner makes extraordinarily obscure comments about language and grammar, suggesting that the government engages in "mind control on the people by controlling grammar." That's not the kind of idea that's very common out there, even on the Internet. In fact, I think it's pretty clear that Loughner is taking ideas from Patriot conspiracy theorist David Wynn Miller of Milwaukee. Miller claims that the government uses grammar to "enslave" Americans and offers up his truly weird "Truth-language" as an antidote. For example, he says that if you add colons and hyphens to your name in a certain way, you are no longer taxable. Miller may be mad as a hatter, but he has a real following on the right.

About David Wynn Miller, I found the following:


David Wynn Miller is one of the quirkier leaders within the "sovereign citizen" movement, whose ideology has apparently had a role in various other violent incidents too.  It is an outgrowth of the Posse Comitatus movement, which was founded in 1969.  For information about the "sovereign citizen" movement in general, see:

In "Well, maybe a black 'sovereign citizen' will get people's attention," David Neiwert says:

And there's an important thread here: Not only were Jerry and Joe Kane "sovereign citizens," so were Scott Roeder, the assassin of George Tiller, and James Von Brunn, the Holocaust Museum shooter.

A major recent outgrowth of the "sovereign citizen" movement is the so-called "Redemption" movement, about which see:


Some sources, including the above Wikipedia article and AP/MSNBC article, confuse the "Redemption movement" with the entirety of the "sovereign citizen" movement, when in fact the "Redemption movement" is only a relatively recent subset of the "sovereign citizen" movement, dating back only to 1990 or so, according to some of the other sources listed here.

P.S.:

 On Scott Roeder's ties to the "sovereign citizen" movement, I found the following sources:

I am not yet able to find reliable confirmation of James Von Brunn's ties to the "sovereign citizen" movement (as claimed by David Neiwert).  But the ADL and SPLC do describe plenty of other violent episodes involving "sovereign citizens."

Further P.S.:  

About Loughner himself, Chip Berlet has called attention to Jared Loughner: Delusuions of Grandeur & the New American Paranoia by Chad Lance, Weird Load: Only in America, Thursday, January 13, 2011.




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You might want to add Paul de Armond's article Christian Patriots At War with the State http://www.publicgood.org/reports/belief/ to your library.

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