Occupying Hate in Springfield, Massachusetts
Frederick Clarkson printable version print page     Bookmark and Share
Sun Nov 20, 2011 at 08:14:57 PM EST
Occupy Springfield (MA) morphed into "Occupy Hate" on Friday in a protest outside of the evangelical coffee house ministry of anti-gay activist Scott Lively.  

Lively, who has had a long career as an anti-gay activist, notably in Oregon, California, and recently in Uganda, where he rallied support for the national legislation that would make homosexuality a capital offense, claims that his Springfield ministry has nothing to do with his ongoing anti-gay activism around the world.

As if they can be separated.

Lively's Abiding Truth Ministries has been designated as a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center. The Springfield Republican reported  
Protesters videotaped the demonstration and posted it on the Occupy Springfield Facebook page and on YouTube.

As the demonstration continued, Lively came out of the coffeehouse and confronted the protesters, reading a Bible passage as demonstrators chanted:  "Preach
love, not hate."

The pastor of he Redemption Gate Mission Society, Lively attracted controversy after participating in a 2009 tour of Uganda by evangelical ministers, which critics say stoked anti-gay sentiment in the country and anti-homosexual violence.

Lively is the the author of "The Pink Swastika: Homosexuality in the Nazi Party," which asserts that Germany's Nazi party was conceived, organized and controlled ... by masculine-oriented male homosexuals."  

Lively has denied charges that he promotes hatred of gays.

Several dozen Occupy Springfield protesters marched to the Holy Grounds Coffee House where they were met by Lively supporters and the man himself whose comments are recorded on the following five-minute video.

The naming of the hate, the hater, and the place where the hate occurs in the OWS style of repetition by the group, of phrases of the speaker(s), is quite effective in this video.   The marchers follow a banner that reads "Occupy Hate."  All this suggests the possibility of fresh approaches to how to confront elements of the Religious Right.  The OWS style is not only highly participatory, as everyone gets to speak, even in repetition, and not merely chant slogans, the Springfield action also uses carefully chosen and well presented facts.  

But such tactics are not possible without unassailable facts and analysis.  That's why it is important not to forget the strategic, non-hyperbolic research and writing that is so essential to effective activism as well as to sound reporting and scholarship. Here is an excellent example:

Earlier this year, The Public Eye magazine published a detailed profile of Lively, by Jim Burroway, who reports that, among other things, Lively believes that gay people were responsible for the Holocaust and are otherwise, serial killers and mass murderers.  His profile reads in part:  

What Lively "knows" and came to warn his Ugandan audience about is chilling.  He told them that one of the most common causes of homosexuality is child molestation; that's how gays recruit children into homosexuality, he said.  He told them that European gays were flooding Uganda with money and gifts to recruit children.  "They are very predatory," he said.

They are very sexually oriented.  They want to satisfy their sexual desires. Often these are people that are molested themselves and they're turning it around. And they're looking for other people to be able to prey upon.  And when they see a child that's from a broken home, it's like they have a flashing neon sign over their head.

He told the Ugandans about what he said are the various kinds of gays: the transsexuals, the transvestites, the effeminate gays, and the "normal" ones, who blend in. They are the hardest to spot, he said.  Then there are the others: machos and, worst of all, he said, the "super machos."  It's the latter two groups, Lively claimed, who founded the Nazi party and helped Hitler to come to power.  "These are men who have very little restraint," he said.

They are so far from normalcy that they're killers.  They're serial killers, mass murderers.  This is the kind of person that it takes to run a gas chamber, right?  Or to do a mass murder, like the Rwandan stuff probably involved these guys.

There's some dispute about whether Mark Twain actually said, "A lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes."  But there is no dispute that Scott Lively has thoroughly proven this truism.  "The gay movement is an evil institution," he told his spellbound Ugandan audience.  "The goal of the gay movement is to defeat the marriage-based society and replace it with a culture of sexual promiscuity."  His voice rising and his eyes flashing with anger, he continued, If you deny and reject the design of your own body, and you engage in conduct that is self-evidently wrong and harmful to you, then you're going to receive in your body the penalty of your error which is appropriate.  Can anyone say AIDS?

This was very possibly, a transformative event in the history of confronting hateful, anti-democratic elements of the Religious Right.  It is worth considering how and why that might be so.




Display:
The fact that OWS-style protesting is being used ubiquitously throughout the US means that perhaps at least some of the ideas will stick in the minds of fence-sitters and the uninformed.

by trog69 on Mon Nov 21, 2011 at 12:38:16 PM EST
Lively hopes to do a little recruiting to his abhorrent lifestyle (cloacus maximus?)

by NancyP on Mon Nov 21, 2011 at 02:05:17 PM EST
Parent
Mark 7:20 That which comes out of a man defiles the man. Preach love, not hate. What a great place to occupy.

by arachne646 on Sun Nov 27, 2011 at 02:45:26 PM EST
Parent



The Wiemar Republic was among other things a flowering of culture and freedom that caused much of the extreme blow back that brought the Nazi's into power.

So even before they started rounding up Jews they first rounded up Gays (who had outed themselves and been put on lists, before the Nazi's even came to power) and put them in the concentration and death camps.

If there were any gays in the Nazi party they would certainly have been brutally killed if found out. That is not to say that more than a few were possibly of the authoritarian sort in denial and fear of their nature and trying to be extreme homophobes to cover their own self hatred.

This fact needs to be spoken loudly to any who would try and spread Lively's fraud.

by FreeDem on Sat Dec 03, 2011 at 01:03:30 PM EST



WWW Talk To Action


Ross Douthat's Hackery on the Seemingly Incongruous Alliance of Bannon & Burke
Conservative Catholic writer Ross Douthat has dissembled again. This time, in a February 15, 2017 New York Times op-ed titled The Trump Era's Catholic......
By Frank Cocozzelli (1 comment)
`So-Called Patriots' Attack The Rule Of Law
Every so often, right-wing commentator Pat Buchanan lurches out of the far-right fever swamp where he has resided for the past 50 years to......
By Rob Boston (0 comments)
Bad Faith from Focus on the Family
Here is one from the archives, Feb 12, 2011, that serves as a reminder of how deeply disingenuous people can be. Appeals to seek......
By Frederick Clarkson (5 comments)
The Legacy of George Wallace
"One need not accept any of those views to agree that they had appealed to real concerns of real people, not to mindless, unreasoning......
By wilkyjr (6 comments)
Betsy DeVos's Mudsill View of Public Education
My Talk to Action colleague Rachel Tabachnick has been doing yeoman's work in explaining Betsy DeVos's long-term strategy for decimating universal public education. If......
By Frank Cocozzelli (6 comments)
Prince and DeVos Families at Intersection of Radical Free Market Privatizers and Religious Right
This post from 2011 surfaces important information about President-Elect Trump's nominee for Secretary of Education, Betsy DeVos. -- FC Erik Prince, Brother of Betsy......
By Rachel Tabachnick (21 comments)
Religious Freedom is Not Just for Christian Conservatives
Religious freedom is one of the central issues of our time. Arguably, it a central issue in any time, and every time, at least......
By Frederick Clarkson (1 comment)
Dallas and its Historic Connection to the Religious Right
There has been a recent rash of demonstrations outside of the famous First Baptist Church in Dallas, Texas.  The current pastor appears to be......
By wilkyjr (3 comments)
Fr. Frank Pavone Claims the 2016 Coughie Award!
Yes, folks it's time for the presentation of the annual Coughlin Award. As always, the competition was fierce. But this year, the gold......
By Frank Cocozzelli (1 comment)
Christmas Broadcasting Traditions
It is time to once again note the preposterous-but-malevolent claims that there is a War on Christmas. The annual revival of this repulsive anti-Semitic......
By Frederick Clarkson (5 comments)
Steve Bannon: Alt-Right Anti-Catholic or Political Opportunist?
In March 2016 Trump campaign strategist and CEO Steve Bannon made a comment that could be construed as being blatantly anti-Catholic. He accused the......
By Frank Cocozzelli (4 comments)
Terms, Definitions & Glossaries for Writing about the Religious Right
One of the challenges in writing about the Religious Right and what to do about it is the matter of terms and definitions. That's......
By Frederick Clarkson (0 comments)
How The Election of Trump Made My Life Easier
I might be one of a select few who didn't vote for Donald but would have to say Trump's election made my life easier...I......
By wilkyjr (10 comments)
The Bakke Plot To "Infiltrate" Secular Institutions
Back in 2012-2014 I did a lot of writing and research on The Gathering, the yearly meeting of elite evangelical right philanthropists who collectively......
By Bruce Wilson (1 comment)
The Term "Alt-Right" is All Right
There is a misguided effort underway to not use the term "alt-right."  The effort, currently led by the Center for American Progress, claims that......
By Frederick Clarkson (6 comments)

Fear
What I'm feeling now is fear.  I swear that it seems my nightmares are coming true with this new "president".  I'm also frustrated because so many people are not connecting all the dots! I've......
ArchaeoBob (4 comments)
"America - love it or LEAVE!"
I've been hearing that and similar sentiments fairly frequently in the last few days - far FAR more often than ever before.  Hearing about "consequences for burning the flag (actions) from Trump is chilling!......
ArchaeoBob (2 comments)
"Faked!" Meme
Keep your eyes and ears open for a possible move to try to discredit the people openly opposing Trump and the bigots, especially people who have experienced terrorism from the "Right"  (Christian Terrorism is......
ArchaeoBob (6 comments)
More aggressive proselytizing
My wife told me today of an experience she had this last week, where she was proselytized by a McDonald's employee while in the store. ......
ArchaeoBob (4 comments)
See if you recognize names on this list
This comes from the local newspaper, which was conservative before and took a hard right turn after it was sold. Hint: Sarah Palin's name is on it!  (It's also connected to Trump.) ......
ArchaeoBob (3 comments)
Unions: A Labor Day Discussion
This is a revision of an article which I posted on my personal board and also on Dailykos. I had an interesting discussion on a discussion board concerning Unions. I tried to piece it......
Xulon (4 comments)
Extremely obnoxious protesters at WitchsFest NYC: connected to NAR?
In July of this year, some extremely loud, obnoxious Christian-identified protesters showed up at WitchsFest, an annual Pagan street fair here in NYC.  Here's an account of the protest by Pagan writer Heather Greene......
Diane Vera (3 comments)
Capitalism and the Attack on the Imago Dei
I joined this site today, having been linked here by Crooksandliars' Blog Roundup. I thought I'd put up something I put up previously on my Wordpress blog and also at the DailyKos. As will......
Xulon (0 comments)
History of attitudes towards poverty and the churches.
Jesus is said to have stated that "The Poor will always be with you" and some Christians have used that to refuse to try to help the poor, because "they will always be with......
ArchaeoBob (13 comments)
Alternate economy medical treatment
Dogemperor wrote several times about the alternate economy structure that dominionists have built.  Well, it's actually made the news.  Pretty good article, although it doesn't get into how bad people could be (have been)......
ArchaeoBob (5 comments)
Evidence violence is more common than believed
Think I've been making things up about experiencing Christian Terrorism or exaggerating, or that it was an isolated incident?  I suggest you read this article (linked below in body), which is about our great......
ArchaeoBob (8 comments)
Central Florida Sheriff Preached Sermon in Uniform
If anyone has been following the craziness in Polk County Florida, they know that some really strange and troubling things have happened here.  We've had multiple separation of church and state lawsuits going at......
ArchaeoBob (2 comments)
Demon Mammon?
An anthropologist from outer space might be forgiven for concluding that the god of this world is Mammon. (Or, rather, The Market, as depicted by John McMurtry in his book The Cancer Stage of......
daerie (2 comments)
Anti-Sharia Fever in Texas: This is How It Starts
The mayor of a mid-size Texan city has emerged in recent months as the newest face of Islamophobia. Aligning herself with extremists hostile to Islam, Mayor Beth Van Duyne of Irving, Texas has helped......
JSanford (2 comments)
Evangelicals Seduced By Ayn Rand Worship Crypto-Satanism, Suggest Scholars
[update: also see my closely related stories, "Crypto-Cultists" and "Cranks": The Video Paul Ryan Hoped Would Go Away, and The Paul Ryan/Ayn Rand/Satanism Connection Made Simple] "I give people Ayn Rand with trappings" -......
Bruce Wilson (11 comments)

More Diaries...




All trademarks and copyrights on this page are owned by their respective companies. Comments, posts, stories, and all other content are owned by the authors. Everything else 2005 Talk to Action, LLC.