Transcripts From Transformation Michigan/Oak Initiative Conference Calls
Please bear in mind that there might be minor errors in these transcriptions, which Rachel Tabachnick and I made of selected segments from several Transformation Michigan/Oak Initiative conference calls held in 2010 and 2011. But we've done our best, given limited time.
Date: September 9, 2010
Speakers: Transformation Michigan coordinator Rich Warzywak, Heartland Apostolic Prayer Network head John Benefiel, West Michigan Prayer Center head Anita Christopher.
[listen to audio from call segment]
15:24 September 9, 2010
Rick Warzywak: And it's incredible how the favor that you have received. You were allowed to go in, and this is again for the listeners here, into our Senate Chamber [Michigan] literally. I mean, that was awesome.
John Benefiel: Well it was, and two State Senators there welcomed us into the Senate Chambers and in the Senate Chamber we were able to decree the Baal divorce decree. And that just puts the enemy on the run. So, I know he's on the run there in Michigan. And we've been able to do this in lots of state capitals. God just opens the doors - I don't really have to do much. Just go where He opens up the doors and it's been very, very powerful.
Warzywak: Well let me bring Anita into here, Christopher, because of what you've done here. You know, you came in, you just plowed in here and now Anita is kind of like going out with a SWAT team here. And again, Anita, why don't you explain how you are going right along in the flow with what John has started here. And describe what is going on in the state, and then we're going to get back to John in here again. But I want you to describe, Anita, what's happening?
Anita Christopher: So in our state we realized that this iniquitous Baal structure is in every county and permeates all the Seven Mountains. The influence over our state is tremendous. So, we just went on the website and we found out, it's easy to find out, where all the Masonic lodges and temples are located, and to see how they structured Michigan. And they've divided Michigan into 21 areas, so we divided Michigan into 21 areas. And we are taking area by area, standing in front of each Masonic lodge and divorcing Baal in front of each lodge.
And the scripture that the Lord has instructed us -so it's just a wonderful scripture, you're going to love this- and it's Jeremiah 51:44. And we write this, we literally write this scripture on a stake, like a tongue depressor. And it says that, this is what God says to Baal, and so this is the declaration we say in front of each Masonic temple where they are meeting with the Masons, and the Eastern Star, and many times the DeMolays and the Job's Daughters, all of those things, all of those organizations coming together under the Baal structure.
And the scripture says, "and I will punish Baal." And we say, "and I will punish Baal, this inquitous structure, this masonic structure in..." and we name the little town, village, or city that we are in, "...in the city and I will bring forth out of his mouth that which he has swallowed up." And he has swallowed up in our cities the Seven Mountains, the wealth, the health of people, and idolatry of all kinds and sexual perversion and immorality.
So and it says, "And the nations shall no longer flow to him, and the walls of his structure will fall down." And we decree that those walls - we just agree with the scripture. And then we say, "And My people will come out of her." So we feel like we are literally standing in front of this prison house and we are divorcing Baal here, we are marrying the land and the people to Jehovah. And we are opening the prison doors and letting the people out, taking the hoodwink off of them, that veil that the Masons have put on them, and taking the shackles off their legs and letting them go free. So we believe that we are changing that atmosphere above the town and allowing the people then to make a clear choice for God and we're calling them out in that area.
So we have teams set up to go into all of our counties to do this and we are about 3/4 of the way finished. We have 377 Masonic temples and centers in our state, and so we are 3/4 of the way finished with that, and in just a couple of weeks we are going to be finished. And we are looking for visible signs of what God is doing. And we can sense, we're even sensing now that the atmosphere is changing over our state.
Warzywak: You know a sign -as I shared with you off the call- of this movement, in Detroit and the greater Detroit area, of this the synergy of unity even amongst, across the races here, there is like a stirring going on - we need to come together, in prayer and impact the culture. And so I believe this is one of the things. So, you know, John came in, Anita, you're liking mopping up now, and we all have to do our assignments. Now John, obviously declaration and declaring, or declaring and proclaiming, is very important in this divorcement of Baal, isn't it?
Benefiel: Yes, you've got to do that and there is a, there's bigger picture to what we are doing. We're not advertising about going to the Masonic lodges and we really don't want people to say that because they'll mix up what we're doing. I probably ought to say this so that everyone will understand:
None of us are against Freemasons. We're not against the people. Ephesians 6:12 says, "We wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities and powers and rulers of the darkness of this world and wicked spirits in the heavenlies."
We are for the people. We are for freemasons, and Mormons, and Muslims getting free from the bondage that they've been under to know the Lord Jesus Christ. The bible says in 2 Corinthians 4:4 says the god of this age, that would be Baal, has blinded the mind of the unbelievers. And when you bind the god of this age, then the minds of the unbelievers are open to the truth; they can begin to see the truth.
And I believe this is going to result in the biggest harvest of souls that we've ever seen. I know because you've told me in your state there, in the Dearborn area in particular, that's probably the biggest stronghold of Islam in our nation. Well, in going to the masonic lodges, I believe that we are earning authority from God -and that's correct we do earn authority from God- just like the parable of the talents and the parable of the minas. When you handle what God has given you in the right way, he'll multiply your authority. I believe we'll earn authority to pull down the spirit of Islam over our nation."
Date: April 11, 2011
Speakers: Transformation Michigan coordinator Rich Warzywak, Anita Christopher, West Michigan Prayer Center
[listen to audio from call segments: Bill Sudduth, Anita Christopher]
[start of call]
Rich Warzywak: Well, everybody, I'd like to welcome you to another Transformation Michigan/Oak Initiative conference call, and as I stated earlier, to some of you, when you were coming on, that what we do is, uh, we are having a lot of information being given out on TheCall coming to Michigan, on 11.11.11. So for our whole series for the rest of the year up until that time we'll be focused on that but also related things, to TheCall, and tonight we have two guest speakers on, Anita Christopher from the West Michigan Prayer Center. We also have Bill Sudduth on the line.
Bill Sudduth: And we truly believe that freemasonry is the open door in this nation that has allowed radical Islam to come and give it a foothold. And if we don't deal with it that foothold will become a stronghold.
Rich Warzywak: Well you know we had a visitor in our state, Bill and Anita. Anita, you know - you met him -General Jerry Boykin, retired general. He was a former head of our U.S. intelligence. He's a compassionate Christian believer and he talked about the importance of whenever you engage in any type of war you send in special teams first. And here, we know on 11/11/11 we're going to have a stadium-wide event. And the general said that, like in Afghanistan, the first time we went in, they send in special teams. And they really did all the work - because they took out all the pockets and when the regular army came in, it paved the way.
And so, I see what you're doing as sort of like the special forces coming in. So, again, let's reiterate, what is the real purpose of your visit on may day may day visit in Dearborn, which I'll have Anita explain more on April 29th and 30th. Bill give us, what is the - really define it - the purpose of your visit is what?
Sudduth: The Lord gave me a very clear strategy to deal with freemasonry and Islam over the nation. That strategy is number one to teach on it, to give people an understanding. And Anita has actually been through the teaching and she'll be able to tell you that it's very eye opening. Folks get an understanding of the truth and we know John 8:32 says, "You'll know the truth and the truth shall make you free." And A lot of times we don't understand what we're dealing with so the teachings will actually give folks an understanding of what we're dealing with, the spirits behind it, how the spirits operate, etc.
After the teachings we actually do the prayer of release. There is a prayer of release for freemasonry , the one I just referenced that Selwyn Stephens wrote. But there's also a prayer of release from Islam and the spirits behind it. And we corporately break that as well. And then we do Identificational Repentance and we have three specific categories. We have a government official or a state employee of Michigan actually repent for the state's involvement, we have a pastor repent for the churches' involvement, and then we have an ex-mason or Eastern Star - someone who was personally involved in the masonic - repent for the damage it has done to families and then corporately we pray and we just literally pull it down over the state.
Anita Christopher: After lunch we're coming back to the facility and then we will, for those who want to do this, we will be doing some teaching on what the strongman over this is, and we do believe as do many of the prophetic and apostolic people that Baal is the strongman over our country and directly the strongman over Islam and freemasonry. So we will be teaching about Baal and then using strategy that we've been given to go to mosques to do this strategy and to pray right on site. It's not going to be prayer walking. It's going to be really prayer driving. And we will have maps, and directions, and the strategy, after we have been set free ourselves from freemasonry and from Islamic influence. Then we can go then and tear down, like Gideon did, the Asherah poles, the grove that has set up false worship in our state. So we'll just be doing that close around where we're meeting over in the Dearborn area. And I think that'll be a good training, I think you'll really enjoy that and feel like that you have been part of this and then can move out and do it in your other parts of the state.