What Secret "Other Matters" Did McCain Discuss With "Apocalypse Now" Hagee ?
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Fri Feb 23, 2007 at 09:55:06 AM EST
"TIM RUSSERT: So we could have two wars at once?
SEN. McCAIN: I think we could have Armageddon.

-- John McCain, on the Iran crisis. April 2nd 2006, "Meet The Press."

A few weeks ago, to little notice, Texas megachurch pastor John Hagee, founder of the new "apocalypse now!" national lobbying group CUFI ( what is CUFI ? see story footnote ) met with Presidential candidate and US Senator John McCain and, over breakfast, discussed Israel and "other matters."

Pastor Hagee declined to detail in the email he sent out to members of the CUFI mailing list because "This newsflash goes to the ends of the earth and I don't want to read it in the media tomorrow."  At a July 19th, 2006 Washington, DC inaugural event for CUFI; following a recorded greeting from President George W. Bush; and with four US Senators and the Israeli ambassador to the US in attendance, Pastor John Hagee stated:

"the United States must join Israel in a pre-emptive military strike against Iran to fulfill God's plan for both Israel and the West... a biblically prophesied end-time confrontation with Iran, which will lead to the Rapture, Tribulation, and Second Coming of Christ.".

[7-4-2011 - update and correction: the text, above, is a misquote incorrectly attributed to John Hagee--who has publicly declared (CUFI Washington D.C. summit 2007) that "It is time for America to consider a military preemptive strike against Iran to prevent a nuclear holocaust in Israel and a nuclear attack in America" but has not directly stated that this will bring about the end-time scenario Hagee predicts. For an extended discussion of this misquote, see Christians United For Israel Lashes Out (Anatomy of a Misquote) For an extensive collection of sourced John Hagee quotes here at Talk To Action - see 1, 2, 3, 4, 5]

So, what were the "other matters" Hagee and McCain discussed last January 29th? And, why is Senator McCain seeking political support from an advocate for apocalyptic war?

Pastor Hagee's email to members of CUFI:

CHRISTIANS UNITED FOR ISRAEL

Membership Update

January 29, 2007

Newsflash!

This morning I had an extended breakfast with Senator John McCain of Arizona.  Our topic of discussion was Israel and his candidacy for the Presidency of the United States of America.

Senator McCain's comments concerning Israel are on target!  He gets it!  While I do not want to put the specifics of our conversation in this update I am glad to report to our leadership and supporters that John McCain is solidly pro-Israel.

We discussed his positions on other matters that I will share with you when I speak with you in person.  This newsflash goes to the ends of the earth and I don't want to read it in the media tomorrow.



footnote: What is CUFI ?

Max Blumenthal :  Israel, the US, and the Christian Right: The Menage a Trois From Hell

Bill Berkowitz : Holy Warriors Set Sights
on Iran


Esther Kaplan : Christian Zionism all juiced up

Richard Bartholomew : Armey: Bush Believes in Tribulation, but not Trying to Make it Happen

Bruce Wilson : Dick Armey Denies Bush Administration Trying To Provoke "End Times"




Display:
myself and a number of other libertarian/Republicans have turned our backs on Senator McCain. I respect him for his service to our country but he has turned his back on us. His kowtowing to the Religious Reich is disgusting and shameful.

by Frank Frey on Fri Feb 23, 2007 at 03:18:31 PM EST
when he crawled into Liberty U to suck up to Jolly Jerry.  

This is unfathomably nutty - the whole armageddon nonsense is not just laughlably silly anymore - it's scary.  These people are genuinely crazy and agitating for expansionist insanity.  I used to admire McCain, but that he's even willing to engage in such discussions...sheesh.

by montpellier on Fri Feb 23, 2007 at 03:36:32 PM EST
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